From info at mathgoodies.com Wed Jul 21 14:05:10 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: Interactive math lessons Message-ID: <37960BCD.4BD339B6@mathgoodies.com> I just wanted to let everyone know about Math Goodies. Math Goodies is a free educational site featuring interactive math lessons. We also offer homework help, chat boards and many other resources. The url is: http://www.mathgoodies.com/ Gisele Glosser -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies (TM) % % % % Interactive math lessons with a problem-solving approach! % % % % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message "unsubscribe webmath" --------------------------------------------------------- From gfratus at for.mat.bham.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 06:38:51 1999 From: gfratus at for.mat.bham.ac.uk (Greig Fratus) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: Introduction Message-ID: <199907221038.LAA23169@for.mat.bham.ac.uk> My name is Greig Fratus and I am the information officer with CTI Mathematics which is based in the School of Mathematics and Statistics at the University of Birmingham in the UK. CTI stands for Computers and Technology in Instruction. It was set up to provide support to UK Higher Education institutions who teach mathematics. Our website is http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath Past issues of our newsletter can be found on this site. The newsletter contains reviews and articles concerning technology and the teaching of mathematics. We also maintain an online database of mathematical courseware. Suggestions for courseware to include or review are most welcome, as is general feedback. One project that developed with some help from CTI Mathematics is the Mathwise project. This is a CD to assist with the teaching of mathematics. Details of this can be found at http://www.bham.ac.uk/mathwise/ Thank you, Greig --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Sat Jul 24 18:06:33 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: Welcome Message-ID: Hello, WebMathers. Let me introduce myself: I'm June Lester, the host for this list. I'm a mathematician normally based at the University of New Brunswick, Canada, but currently on leave at the Centre for Experimental and Constructive Mathematics at Simon Fraser University, where we work on such fun projects as an online Mathematics Lab. I'm very much interested in all facets of web-based mathematics, and started this list to encourage talk among those with the same interests. Currently, after being live for about three days, we have 120 confirmed list members, and another dozen or so who have yet to confirm. (My apologies to those of you who experienced subscription glitches; these have now been cleared up, and the process should now run smoothly.) The domains represented thus far include au, ca, com, cz, dk, edu, fr, ie, jp, lk, my, net, nz, pl, sa, uk and us, so we're pretty international. My only complaint thus far is that most of you appear to be lurkers :o), but I expect that to change shortly once we get the discussions going. I'll post a few of my own questions shortly. We have very few rules, which should have appeared in the welcome message you received; here they are again as a reminder: The posting address is webmath@mail.math.ca. Basic nettiquette is expected: don't flame, don't post off the list topic, etc. Remember that members of this list may have limited email resources: don't send attachments, vcf cards or HTML formatted messages, and quote only the relevant portions of the original message in any reply. Keep any product announcements to five lines plus a URL - no advertising please - and put something like "product announcement" in the subject line. The list is set up to send replies to the whole list. If you want to reply to an individual, please change the "to" line - don't automatically hit reply! The host reserves the right to modify these rules at any time and to remove anyone from the list for failing to follow these rules or for any other objectionable behaviour. Once again, welcome, and enjoy the list. --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Sat Jul 24 18:21:35 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: TtH Message-ID: I'm going to be designing an online distance ed version of a Calculus I course shortly, and so have been spending a lot of time and energy looking at ways to put mathematics text on web pages. One method I've been looking at is TeX to HTML converters, like TtH , which uses tables and the Symbol font to produce pretty readable math text. Unfortunately, I can only get it to work with Navigator on my Mac: IE(Mac) will not recognize the Symbol font; neither will Navigator or IE on a Windows machine I tested (all recent versions). (To check this out, try to change your browser's main font in the preferences to Symbol - IE and Navigator(Win) won't let you.) This apparently has something to do with which fonts these browsers allow for which text encodings, but I can't get any encoding that allows Symbol. So is this me or is it Microsoft? Does anyone have any experience with TtH? I understand TtH has been used fairly widely, so this must have come up before ? --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Sat Jul 24 18:39:56 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: TtH References: Message-ID: <379A40BC.B23EB09A@mathgoodies.com> June, I find that IE does not cooperate. I also have a Mac (and Windows 95). Here is some info which may be helpful (from the Math Forum Newsletter). I hope this helps, Gisele MATHEMATICAL MARKUP LANGUAGE - MATHML MathML is an application for describing mathematical expression structure and content. Its goal is to serve, receive, and process mathematics on the Web, just as HTML has enabled this functionality for text. A number of groups are working on its implementation. For progress reports and other information, visit: - Mathematical Markup Language (MathML): W3C Recommendation http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-MathML/ from the World Wide Web Consortium: about interactions between MathML content and presentation tags, how MathML renderers might be implemented and should interact with browsers, and MathML entities (extended characters) and their relation to fonts - MathML Information Center - Geometry Technologies, Inc. http://www.webeq.com/mathml/ an extensive resource list, sample documents, and a Web-based discussion group for MathML developers. Includes A Gentle Introduction to MathML: http://www.webeq.com/mathml/gitmml/ Also from Geometry Technologies: WebEQ: Putting Math on the Web - a suite of Java applets that allow Web authors to include mathematics in their pages: http://www.webeq.com/webeq/ - MathML: Mathematical Markup Language - Pankaj Kamthan, Computational Mathematics Lab., Concordia Univ., Canada http://indy.cs.concordia.ca/mathml/main.html a comprehensive source of information about MathML, with links to authoring tools; mailing lists and usenet groups; companies and organizations supporting MathML; documentation; information on the history and possible future of MathML; examples and applications; interoperability; information on links in MathML code and its syntax in general; news; lists of compilers, editors, renderers, and translators; and other Web resources - MathML - What's In It For Us? - Janus Boye http://irt.org/articles/js081/ an article presenting a brief history of the standard; descriptions of the elements and attributes, tokens and basic layout schemata, and containers; a demo of MathML in a browser; the EzMath plug-in; the future of MathML; Web references; and content and presentation element reference tables June Lester wrote: > > I'm going to be designing an online distance ed version of a Calculus I > course shortly, and so have been spending a lot of time and energy looking > at ways to put mathematics text on web pages. One method I've been looking > at is TeX to HTML converters, like TtH > , which uses tables and the Symbol > font to produce pretty readable math text. Unfortunately, I can only get > it to work with Navigator on my Mac: IE(Mac) will not recognize the Symbol > font; neither will Navigator or IE on a Windows machine I tested (all > recent versions). (To check this out, try to change your browser's main > font in the preferences to Symbol - IE and Navigator(Win) won't let you.) > This apparently has something to do with which fonts these browsers allow > for which text encodings, but I can't get any encoding that allows Symbol. > > So is this me or is it Microsoft? Does anyone have any experience with > TtH? I understand TtH has been used fairly widely, so this must have come > up before ? > --------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List > To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message > unsubscribe webmath > --------------------------------------------------------- -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % % % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies (TM) % % % % Interactive math lessons with a problem-solving approach! % % % % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % % % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Sat Jul 24 18:30:04 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: using online math tools Message-ID: Given that we now have a number of nice tools for teaching online math, what can/should we now be doing differently? Example: there is a web-based grapher that does zooming (or the MathView/LiveMath plug-in will). This means, for example, that instead of doing the standard "secant-line --> tangent-line" motivation for derivatives, I can easily do a "local linear approximation" motivation: keep zooming in on a point, the curve gets closer to a line, find the slope of the line (equivalent, but a slightly different point of view). What other things can we do differently with existing online tools? Our treatment of graphing should definitely be changed, for example - requiring students to use calculus to graph a function is pointless in these days of online graphers (at least it certainly seems to to the students) - but then how do we use the tools to get the students to understand the relations between the calculus and the graphs? Or is it important to understand them anyway? I'd like to bring some fresh ideas to the Calculus I course I'm designing, but I'm interested in all innovative ways to use interactivity to teach mathematics online. If you have any concrete examples you'd like to share, so much the better. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Sat Jul 24 18:35:34 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: costs of online math ed Message-ID: Many have been saying that, despite the hopes of educational administrators, the costs for online education will actually be higher that those for classroom education. The factors cited include, among other things, managing and facilitating student-student interaction through online discussion, etc. Question: how much of this reasoning is likely to apply to online mathematics education? It seems to me that a web-based mathematics course, as opposed to something like a political science course, say, or many arts or professional subjects, would tend to require more online student-content interactivity that student-student interactivity. The major costs of doing math ed online will be in providing that student-content interactivity - graphers, simulations, online algebra, whatever - and these will be "initial" costs. So once the student-content interactivity mechanisms are in place, the average cost per student should decrease as the number of students increases. The costs of facilitating student-student discussions, OTOH, would increase with the number of students - more of them to manage - but this would seem to be more of an issue in subjects where "in-class" (synchronous?) discussion is a more integral part of the learning process. (Not that I'm not saying that there shouldn't/won't be student-student discussion in online mathematics courses: we all know that math students learn much better when they work collaboratively, and they should be provided with a mechanism for doing so, and a mechanism for getting online help from a tutor. But these are more of an adjunct to math learning rather than an integral part of it, or at least, not integral in the same sense that discussions are integral to political science.) I'm talking off the top of my head here, so please contradict me if you've had any experience that suggests the contrary. I'm trying to get some realistic idea of the actual costs involved in running an online math course. --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Sat Jul 24 18:36:54 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: web-based math research papers Message-ID: Question: once we are able to publish mathematical text online easily, how should mathematical research papers be written and published? The typical mathematics research paper published in a paper journal is in a sense ideally suited to "hierarchical" hypertext: there is usually a main theorem, with a proof via several lemmas with their own proofs, etc.. So for a web version, we can envision a main page with an introduction, say, some motivation, a statement of the theorem, comments, etc. - the important parts of the paper on a single page, ideally understandable on their own - a sort of pr?cis. Then links from this page to the details: the lemmas and their proofs, etc., with their own links to sub-proofs, and so on. Should papers in web-based mathematical journals ultimately be written and published this way? It would definitely by more useful to the readers: rather than having to carefully pick the "meat" from a long linear sequence of statements with proofs, the important ideas would be available for perusal on a single page. (OTOH, having to write their papers like this would discomfit those who publish small ideas with detailed proofs and label each and every fact along the way a lemma.) There are other issues here too, like how and where does one usefully introduce interactivity into an online math paper? Can interactivity (e.g. a draggable diagram) be a legitimate part of a proof? Etc., etc, --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Sat Jul 24 19:20:18 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: Welcome References: Message-ID: <379A4A2F.B73BF1C2@langara.bc.ca> June, I have a question about the list administration. Will the proceedings be archived and posted to the web? (and if so at what url?) Posting might be particularly useful for a list such as this - both to save individuals from having to file copies of interesting messages and for the convenience of new members joining the list after discussions are in progress. (It would be particularly nice if the archive could be threaded and searchable) Alan June Lester wrote: > Hello, WebMathers. > > Let me introduce myself: I'm June Lester, the host for this list. > I'm a mathematician normally based at the University of New Brunswick, > Canada, but currently on leave at the Centre for Experimental and > Constructive Mathematics at Simon Fraser > University, where we work on such fun projects as an online Mathematics > Lab. I'm very much interested in all facets of web-based mathematics, and > started this list to encourage talk among those with the same interests. > > Currently, after being live for about three days, we have 120 > confirmed list members, and another dozen or so who have yet to confirm. > (My apologies to those of you who experienced subscription glitches; these > have now been cleared up, and the process should now run smoothly.) The > domains represented thus far include au, ca, com, cz, dk, edu, fr, ie, jp, > lk, my, net, nz, pl, sa, uk and us, so we're pretty international. My only > complaint thus far is that most of you appear to be lurkers :o), but I > expect that to change shortly once we get the discussions going. I'll post > a few of my own questions shortly. > > We have very few rules, which should have appeared in the welcome > message you received; here they are again as a reminder: > > The posting address is webmath@mail.math.ca. > > Basic nettiquette is expected: don't flame, don't post off the list topic, > etc. Remember that members of this list may have limited email resources: > don't send attachments, vcf cards or HTML formatted messages, and quote > only the relevant portions of the original message in any reply. Keep any > product announcements to five lines plus a URL - no advertising please - > and put something like "product announcement" in the subject line. > > The list is set up to send replies to the whole list. If you want to reply > to an individual, please change the "to" line - don't automatically hit > reply! > > The host reserves the right to modify these rules at any time and to remove > anyone from the list for failing to follow these rules or for any other > objectionable behaviour. > > Once again, welcome, and enjoy the list. > --------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List > To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message > unsubscribe webmath > --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Sat Jul 24 19:29:35 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: Welcome In-Reply-To: <379A4A2F.B73BF1C2@langara.bc.ca> References: Message-ID: >June, I have a question about the list administration. >Will the proceedings be archived and posted to the web? (and if so at what >url?) >Posting might be particularly useful for a list such as this - both to save >individuals from having to file copies of interesting messages and for the >convenience of new members joining the list after discussions are in progress. >(It would be particularly nice if the archive could be threaded and >searchable) Yes, we have archives at http://www.camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ This address and other WebMath info will eventually appear on a WebMath home page. June --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Sat Jul 24 19:34:14 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:16 2005 Subject: WebMath: It's mail, not camel Message-ID: Just a quick admin. note. The posting address for the list is webmath@mail.math.ca not webmath@camel.math.ca though the latter address appears in the headers. Things are getting moved about, so although currently the camel address works (or appears to), it may not in the future. Please use "mail". Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Sat Jul 24 21:58:56 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: using online math tools References: Message-ID: <379A6F5F.3A0F14E0@langara.bc.ca> As the author of an applet which does just what you describe (see http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats/resource/GraphExplorer/index.htm ) I agree that there are many ways we can use such tools (either web-based applets or CAS's) to enhance student understanding and overcome difficulties. 'Custom animation' is an important addition to our capabilities in this regard. It can help a student to develop a better intuition for the process of rescaling - especially when the end views look dramatically different, as well as allowing a more "hands on" sense of the process of curve fitting - either to data, or eg as in the definition of e by tangency to 1+x at x=0. Although the animation may not actually add to the content, it may provide visual clues that help to trigger understanding in some students (though admittedly there's a trade off against exercise of the imagination). In this connection I also think that it is important for us to design interfaces to our tools that give the user an opportunity to involve kinesthetic as well as visual sensation. The various "grab and rotate" 3D graphers and VRML are of course good examples of this. With regard to your question about what skills we should test, there are a number of alternatives to the traditional(?) sketch the graph of f(x)=... question. Some that we have found effective are: Sketch the graph of a function with the following properties... (eg f'=0 at.. ,f''<0 in..., etc) The graph of ... produced by ..(aCAS) appears to have a local max. Determine the exact coordinates of that point. A question type which can be used to test the student's skill in effectively using a CAS or graphing applet would be to ask for a complete description of a graph of a function whose behaviour cannot be shown in a single standard picture eg where there is substantially different non-trivial behaviour on dramatically different scales (such examples are not unrealistic - they occur frequently in various areas of mathematical physics) Alan June Lester wrote: > Given that we now have a number of nice tools for teaching online math, > what can/should we now be doing differently? Example: there is a web-based > grapher that does zooming (or the MathView/LiveMath plug-in will). This > means, for example, that instead of doing the standard "secant-line --> > tangent-line" motivation for derivatives, I can easily do a "local linear > approximation" motivation: keep zooming in on a point, the curve gets > closer to a line, find the slope of the line (equivalent, but a slightly > different point of view). > > What other things can we do differently with existing online tools? Our > treatment of graphing should definitely be changed, for example - requiring > students to use calculus to graph a function is pointless in these days of > online graphers (at least it certainly seems to to the students) - but then > how do we use the tools to get the students to understand the relations > between the calculus and the graphs? Or is it important to understand them > anyway? > > I'd like to bring some fresh ideas to the Calculus I course I'm designing, > but I'm interested in all innovative ways to use interactivity to teach > mathematics online. If you have any concrete examples you'd like to share, > so much the better. > > Thanks. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List > To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message > unsubscribe webmath > --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From AYoung1919 at aol.com Sun Jul 25 06:16:04 1999 From: AYoung1919 at aol.com (AYoung1919@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: TtH Message-ID: <8d9733fa.24cc3de4@aol.com> In a message dated 7/24/99 10:26:17PM, you write: << June, I find that IE does not cooperate. I also have a Mac (and Windows 95). Here is some info which may be helpful (from the Math Forum Newsletter). I hope this helps, Gisele >> There is an alternative to TtH and that is TexToHTML (I don't have the URL to hand because I am not at home but I think CTAN do an FTP copy). This conversion utility will work on all platforms because it converts all TeX mathematical notaion into GIF files. The problems then start however, every bit of notation needs an image making the page large and difficult to manipulate - still quite affective. Back to TtH, it uses higher end ASCII characters to display notation, all you need to do is change your character set (Mac users I can't speak for, but I think the idea is much the same) You want to change the set for high end ASCII (non-standard) sets and things will run fine. Perhaps people might think of upgrading to IE 5 which I think has dealt with this problem and also allows saving of entire web pages with their images intact. If you want to try this out have a look at my site and see if you can view my Molien's Theorem dissertation: http://members.aol.com/ayoung1919/AEY_Maths.htm There is also a link to my research proposal which deals precisely with the nature of this list. Regards, Andrew --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From manderso at arches.uga.edu Sun Jul 25 17:51:20 1999 From: manderso at arches.uga.edu (Margaret Anderson) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: (no subject) Message-ID: <379B86D8.281787D2@arches.uga.edu> set digest webmath --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailling List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From P.M.Strickland at livjm.ac.uk Mon Jul 26 04:34:39 1999 From: P.M.Strickland at livjm.ac.uk (Paul Strickland) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: Intro and More Java applets Message-ID: <000601bed741$b3508fc0$0b30cc96@bacon.cms.livjm.ac.uk> Dear Webmath readers, Firstly, to introduce myself and the TREEFROG group; we are developing self-asessment software for pre-calculus algebra (and calculus soon), which you can find out more about at my URL below (and in the latest issue of the International Journal of Computer Algebra in Mathematics Education). We are working with local secondary schools (11-18) to improve the PC-version, which will go "commercial" in September (so I have some time to work on it!). But on the subject of Java applets for teaching maths, the best ones I have seen are at http://www.univie.ac.at/future.media/moe (German at http://www.univie.ac.at/future.media/mo). Have fun! Paul Strickland : Teaching and Learning Coordinator for CMS Year Tutor (CS4/SE4) School of Computing and Mathematical Sciences Liverpool John Moores University Byrom Street Liverpool L3 3AF tel: 0151-231-2274 fax: 0151-207-4594 Computer-aided assessment page- http://java.cms.livjm.ac.uk/treefrog/treefrog.htm Chaos & Fractals Page http://java.cms.livjm.ac.uk/treefrog/cmsma304.htm --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Mon Jul 26 11:28:57 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: It's mail, not camel References: Message-ID: <379C7EB8.6984CEE6@langara.bc.ca> June Lester wrote: > .... though the latter address appears in the headers .... Why does this happen? Won't it cause the automatic reply function in a mail client to send the reply to "webmath@camel.math.ca"? Even if not, it will surely continue to confuse new members. Alan --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Mon Jul 26 11:28:57 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: It's mail, not camel References: Message-ID: <379C7EB8.6984CEE6@langara.bc.ca> June Lester wrote: > .... though the latter address appears in the headers .... Why does this happen? Won't it cause the automatic reply function in a mail client to send the reply to "webmath@camel.math.ca"? Even if not, it will surely continue to confuse new members. Alan --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From giroux at dms.umontreal.ca Mon Jul 26 15:06:29 1999 From: giroux at dms.umontreal.ca (Andre Giroux) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: annonce-announcing Message-ID: <012101bed799$f7fd66e0$ab35cc84@pcmat2..DMS.UMontreal.CA> Bonjour. Ce message a pour objet de publiciser un nouveau cours de math?matique disponible sur le web, de niveau premier cycle avanc?, portant sur l'int?grale de Lebesgue, ? l'adresse http://www.dms.umontreal.ca/~giroux/mat3135.htm Dear webmath(icians), The purpose of this message is to announce a new course of mathematics on the web, level: advanced undergraduate, topic: real analysis. The course is in french but homeworks and exams can be written in english and, of course, help is available in english. The URL is http://www.dms.umontreal.ca/~giroux/mat3135.htm Andr? Giroux http://www.dms.umontreal.ca/~giroux/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.cms.math.ca/pipermail/webmath/attachments/19990726/a83c26a9/attachment.htm From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Fri Jul 30 20:26:56 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: "no significant difference"? Message-ID: Does anyone know of studies that specifically compare the outcomes of web-based mathematics learning vs. in-class mathematics learning (with or without computers)? I'm aware of the "no significant difference" book and website, but I'm looking specifically for studies on *web-based* learning in *mathematics*. TIA for any leads/links. --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Fri Jul 30 21:21:52 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: "no significant difference"? References: Message-ID: <37A24FB0.E61E2087@mathgoodies.com> I am also interested in studies along these lines. I heard of a study that showed that students use use the Internet to help with math score higher in math class. But I know of no site or book with info on this. If anyone does, please let us know. Gisele Glosser June Lester wrote: > > Does anyone know of studies that specifically compare the outcomes of > web-based mathematics learning vs. in-class mathematics learning (with or > without computers)? I'm aware of the "no significant difference" book and > website, but I'm looking specifically for studies on *web-based* learning > in *mathematics*. > > TIA for any leads/links. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message > unsubscribe webmath > --------------------------------------------------------- -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % % % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies (TM) % % % % Interactive math lessons with a problem-solving approach! % % % % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % % % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From thompst at AXP.CALUMET.PURDUE.EDU Tue Aug 3 22:49:16 1999 From: thompst at AXP.CALUMET.PURDUE.EDU (Treg Thompson) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: regular vs digest Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990803214915.006d8898@axp.calumet.purdue.edu> I just joined the list, what is the difference between the regular and digest options. also, is there a command to access archived msgs. Thanks Treg --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From thompst at AXP.CALUMET.PURDUE.EDU Wed Aug 4 02:54:10 1999 From: thompst at AXP.CALUMET.PURDUE.EDU (Treg) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: websites created by instructors to supplement their math class Message-ID: <4.1.19990804015245.0092ac70@axp.calumet.purdue.edu> Greetings, I am investigating how the internet is being used to help teach mathematics. Specifically I am looking at web sites designed by you (the instructor) for a class your teaching. If you've made a web site for a class your teaching/taught and would like to share the URL with me I would be very grateful. If you have a few extra minutes, I would also like to ask you a few questions about your web site. I have created a web page with the questions and a form to submit your responses at http://giton.westhost.com/math I also provide a description of the research I'm doing if your interested. Thank you Treg Thompson Purdue University Calumet thompst@axp.calumet.purdue.edu --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Wed Aug 4 18:45:21 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: From the host: regular vs digest In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990803214915.006d8898@axp.calumet.purdue.edu> Message-ID: >From Treg Thompson: >I just joined the list, what is the difference between the regular and >digest options. With the regular option, you receive the posts as they arrive to the list. With the digest, you receive all the posts for a period (normally a week or so) in a single post. >also, is there a command to access archived msgs. You can find the archives at http://www.camel.math.ca/mail/webmath --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From kelld at bellatlantic.net Thu Aug 5 12:36:11 1999 From: kelld at bellatlantic.net (Deborah Kell) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: collaboration Message-ID: <37A9BD7A.FCC16C5B@bellatlantic.net> I'm interested in somehow finding better ways of sharing online resources and facilities. The uploading of math symbols is nowhere near as easy as uploading plain text. Search engine spiders are being overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of websites, and sometimes don't even know of existing websites unless they are heavily used and linked to as it is. (Unless one pays to keep registration with search engines up to date, it's a tough job to do so as an individual. Monthly reregistration with each of the search engines is necessary to keep your website on their active lists.) And there are some beautiful resources out there that could become part of a "link-net" or similar web connection system. What do other folk think? I'd be more than happy if other educators linked to, used, contributed ideas to our website(s) and I'd love to be referred to link to, use and contribute to others. If we worked at linking to each other more efficiently and methodically, then the search engines' spider software would be more likely to find us as well. I have two websites that might be of interest to members of this listserve. This first website is an attempt to get math support services online for our community college students. The most popular pages are those involving the interactive quizzes and the fast facts. The "post a question" feature may become password-protected in the future, if volume and other considerations arise. http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/olmlc.html This next one is a barely-begun project designed to become sort of a repository of resources for both educators and students looking at online learning (not math specific). With this one, I'm certain that I'm duplicating a number of resources that already exist, but I'm just not sure where they may be. http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/flashydata.html Debbie Kell Mercer County Community College Trenton, NJ --------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message unsubscribe webmath --------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Fri Aug 6 10:55:58 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: screen shot Message-ID: If you're interested in the latest progress Mozilla/Netscape is making towards displaying math, look at http://people.netscape.com/endico/mathml.gif For discussion, look in the mozillaZine, at http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=716 ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From AYoung1919 at aol.com Mon Aug 9 12:50:10 1999 From: AYoung1919 at aol.com (AYoung1919@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: The Euclidean Algorithm Message-ID: <19ad639.24e060c2@aol.com> Dear Users, Released today is my attempt at the automation of the Euclidean algorithm. If Number Theory is an area of interest to you please check out my site: http://aeyoung.mathematician.webjump.com/AEY_Maths.htm and follow the link to GCD and Prime Factorisation. You have to be JavaScript enabled (who isn't?) I have presented the theory and an interactive script window. Please feedback... Kindest regards, Andrew E. Young ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From AYoung1919 at aol.com Mon Aug 9 12:52:17 1999 From: AYoung1919 at aol.com (AYoung1919@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: The Euclidean Algorithm Message-ID: <8474046a.24e06141@aol.com> Dear Users, Released today is my attempt at the automation of the Euclidean algorithm. If Number Theory is an area of interest to you please check out my site: http://aeyoung.mathematician.webjump.com/AEY_Maths.htm and follow the link to GCD and Prime Factorisation. You have to be JavaScript enabled (who isn't?) I have presented the theory and an interactive script window. Please feedback... Kindest regards, Andrew E. Young ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Mon Aug 9 17:04:21 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:17 2005 Subject: WebMath: The New Math Goodies Site is Launched! Message-ID: <37AF4255.46C961E2@mathgoodies.com> Math Goodies is a free educational site featuring interactive math lessons. Our popular site has become a portal for online math education. We have completely redesigned and expanded our site. We still have the same content as before along with some new features including articles, all-new puzzles, an expanded bookstore, and more! We are very excited about the new Math Goodies site and hope you are, too. Come join us at: http://www.mathgoodies.com/ Gisele Glosser Note: Although there are some commercial elements to our site, all of its educational resources are free online. ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Mon Aug 9 19:24:40 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: collaboration References: <37A9BD7A.FCC16C5B@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <37AF6337.238FB3C2@langara.bc.ca> Your posting raises two interesting areas of discussion. I am going to reply to each separately so thet the threads can be kept separate. Deborah Kell wrote: > I'm interested in somehow finding better ways of sharing > online resources and facilities. The uploading of math > symbols is nowhere near as easy as uploading plain text. > Search engine spiders are being overwhelmed by the sheer > quantity of websites, and sometimes don't even know of > existing websites unless they are heavily used and linked to > as it is. (Unless one pays to keep registration with search > engines up to date, it's a tough job to do so as an > individual. Monthly reregistration with each of the search > engines is necessary to keep your website on their active > lists.) And there are some beautiful resources out there > that could become part of a "link-net" or similar web > connection system. What do other folk think? I'd be more > than happy if other educators linked to, used, contributed > ideas to our website(s) and I'd love to be referred to link > to, use and contribute to others. If we worked at linking > to each other more efficiently and methodically, then the > search engines' spider software would be more likely to find > us as well. > > I have two websites that might be of interest to members of > this listserve. > > This first website is an attempt to get math support > services online for our community college students. The > most popular pages are those involving the interactive > quizzes and the fast facts. The "post a question" feature > may become password-protected in the future, if volume and > other considerations arise. > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/olmlc.html > > This next one is a barely-begun project designed to become > sort of a repository of resources for both educators and > students looking at online learning (not math specific). > With this one, I'm certain that I'm duplicating a number of > resources that already exist, but I'm just not sure where > they may be. > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/flashydata.html > > Debbie Kell > Mercer County Community College > Trenton, NJ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message > unsubscribe webmath > --------------------------------------------------------- -- ====================================================================== Alan Cooper (acooper@langara.bc.ca , http://www.langara.bc.ca/~acooper) Dep't of Mathematics and Statistics (http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats) Langara College (http://www.langara.bc.ca ) 100 W 49th Ave. Vancouver BC Canada V5Y2Z6 Tel(604)323-5676,Fax(604)323-5555 ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Mon Aug 9 19:24:40 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: collaboration References: <37A9BD7A.FCC16C5B@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <37AF6337.238FB3C2@langara.bc.ca> Your posting raises two interesting areas of discussion. I am going to reply to each separately so thet the threads can be kept separate. Deborah Kell wrote: > I'm interested in somehow finding better ways of sharing > online resources and facilities. The uploading of math > symbols is nowhere near as easy as uploading plain text. > Search engine spiders are being overwhelmed by the sheer > quantity of websites, and sometimes don't even know of > existing websites unless they are heavily used and linked to > as it is. (Unless one pays to keep registration with search > engines up to date, it's a tough job to do so as an > individual. Monthly reregistration with each of the search > engines is necessary to keep your website on their active > lists.) And there are some beautiful resources out there > that could become part of a "link-net" or similar web > connection system. What do other folk think? I'd be more > than happy if other educators linked to, used, contributed > ideas to our website(s) and I'd love to be referred to link > to, use and contribute to others. If we worked at linking > to each other more efficiently and methodically, then the > search engines' spider software would be more likely to find > us as well. > > I have two websites that might be of interest to members of > this listserve. > > This first website is an attempt to get math support > services online for our community college students. The > most popular pages are those involving the interactive > quizzes and the fast facts. The "post a question" feature > may become password-protected in the future, if volume and > other considerations arise. > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/olmlc.html > > This next one is a barely-begun project designed to become > sort of a repository of resources for both educators and > students looking at online learning (not math specific). > With this one, I'm certain that I'm duplicating a number of > resources that already exist, but I'm just not sure where > they may be. > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/flashydata.html > > Debbie Kell > Mercer County Community College > Trenton, NJ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message > unsubscribe webmath > --------------------------------------------------------- -- ====================================================================== Alan Cooper (acooper@langara.bc.ca , http://www.langara.bc.ca/~acooper) Dep't of Mathematics and Statistics (http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats) Langara College (http://www.langara.bc.ca ) 100 W 49th Ave. Vancouver BC Canada V5Y2Z6 Tel(604)323-5676,Fax(604)323-5555 ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Mon Aug 9 19:35:40 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Re: General Resources for web-based education References: <37A9BD7A.FCC16C5B@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <37AF65CB.58BF5E47@langara.bc.ca> Deborah Kell wrote: (in part) > This next one is a barely-begun project designed to become > sort of a repository of resources for both educators and > students looking at online learning (not math specific). > With this one, I'm certain that I'm duplicating a number of > resources that already exist, but I'm just not sure where > they may be. > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/flashydata.html One great resource for general aspects of Web-based education is the WWWDEV site maintained by Rik Hall at the University of New Brunswick. They have an extensive web-site and an active listserv. The url is http://www.unb.ca/wwwdev/ -- ====================================================================== Alan Cooper (acooper@langara.bc.ca , http://www.langara.bc.ca/~acooper) Dep't of Mathematics and Statistics (http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats) Langara College (http://www.langara.bc.ca ) 100 W 49th Ave. Vancouver BC Canada V5Y2Z6 Tel(604)323-5676,Fax(604)323-5555 ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Mon Aug 9 20:17:46 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Re: Finding and Sharing on-line Math Resources References: <37A9BD7A.FCC16C5B@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <37AF6FAA.6F563CF6@langara.bc.ca> I agree that despite the existence of massive resource catalogues such as the Math Forum and MathArchives , it is still not easy to quickly locate all the relevant and useful resources on any specific detailed topic. The BCCUPM (BC's Math "Articulation Committee") decided this spring to work on developing a more tightly identified set of resource links, and I have been struggling with the same idea for over a year now. A rough "by hand" effort at identifying resources on a topic-by-topic basis is at http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats/resource/onWeb/index.htm but what is really needed is an automated database of resources with metadata that include very detailed topic identification. Perhaps this list would be a good place for further discussion of these issues as it will be important, as time goes on, to describe our resources in a consistent way if we (and our computers) are to be able to sensibly sort through them. Alan P.S. I will of course add a link to your site in our list of catalogues - and also in our section on "Tutors" re the on-line help service. Deborah Kell wrote: > I'm interested in somehow finding better ways of sharing > online resources and facilities. The uploading of math > symbols is nowhere near as easy as uploading plain text. > Search engine spiders are being overwhelmed by the sheer > quantity of websites, and sometimes don't even know of > existing websites unless they are heavily used and linked to > as it is. (Unless one pays to keep registration with search > engines up to date, it's a tough job to do so as an > individual. Monthly reregistration with each of the search > engines is necessary to keep your website on their active > lists.) And there are some beautiful resources out there > that could become part of a "link-net" or similar web > connection system. What do other folk think? I'd be more > than happy if other educators linked to, used, contributed > ideas to our website(s) and I'd love to be referred to link > to, use and contribute to others. If we worked at linking > to each other more efficiently and methodically, then the > search engines' spider software would be more likely to find > us as well. > > I have two websites that might be of interest to members of > this listserve. > > This first website is an attempt to get math support > services online for our community college students. The > most popular pages are those involving the interactive > quizzes and the fast facts. The "post a question" feature > may become password-protected in the future, if volume and > other considerations arise. > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/olmlc.html > > This next one is a barely-begun project designed to become > sort of a repository of resources for both educators and > students looking at online learning (not math specific). > With this one, I'm certain that I'm duplicating a number of > resources that already exist, but I'm just not sure where > they may be. > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/flashydata.html > > Debbie Kell > Mercer County Community College > Trenton, NJ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe, go to http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > or send e-mail to majordomo@mail.math.ca with the message > unsubscribe webmath > --------------------------------------------------------- -- ====================================================================== Alan Cooper (acooper@langara.bc.ca , http://www.langara.bc.ca/~acooper) Dep't of Mathematics and Statistics (http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats) Langara College (http://www.langara.bc.ca ) 100 W 49th Ave. Vancouver BC Canada V5Y2Z6 Tel(604)323-5676,Fax(604)323-5555 ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Mon Aug 9 20:35:53 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Re: Finding and Sharing on-line Math Resources References: <37A9BD7A.FCC16C5B@bellatlantic.net> <37AF6FAA.6F563CF6@langara.bc.ca> Message-ID: <37AF73E7.36C21CC1@mathgoodies.com> Perhaps we could learn from the SMARD Web Site at: http://smard.cqu.edu.au/ Thay have done a nice job of listing resources by topic. Also, The GEM Project has "an automated database of resources with metadata that include very detailed topic identification." They are at: http://www.geminfo.org/ Gisele -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % % Interactive math lessons with a problem-solving approach! % % % % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Alan Cooper wrote: > > I agree that despite the existence of massive resource catalogues such > as the Math Forum and MathArchives , it is still not easy to quickly > locate all the relevant and useful resources on any specific detailed > topic. The BCCUPM (BC's Math "Articulation Committee") decided this > spring to work on developing a more tightly identified set of resource > links, and I have been struggling with the same idea for over a year > now. A rough "by hand" effort at identifying resources on a > topic-by-topic basis is at > http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats/resource/onWeb/index.htm > but what is really needed is an automated database of resources with > metadata that include very detailed topic identification. > > Perhaps this list would be a good place for further discussion of these > issues as it will be important, as time goes on, to describe our > resources in a consistent way if we (and our computers) are to be able > to sensibly sort through them. > Alan > > P.S. I will of course add a link to your site in our list of catalogues > - and also in our section on "Tutors" re the on-line help service. > > Deborah Kell wrote: > > > I'm interested in somehow finding better ways of sharing > > online resources and facilities. The uploading of math > > symbols is nowhere near as easy as uploading plain text. > > Search engine spiders are being overwhelmed by the sheer > > quantity of websites, and sometimes don't even know of > > existing websites unless they are heavily used and linked to > > as it is. (Unless one pays to keep registration with search > > engines up to date, it's a tough job to do so as an > > individual. Monthly reregistration with each of the search > > engines is necessary to keep your website on their active > > lists.) And there are some beautiful resources out there > > that could become part of a "link-net" or similar web > > connection system. What do other folk think? I'd be more > > than happy if other educators linked to, used, contributed > > ideas to our website(s) and I'd love to be referred to link > > to, use and contribute to others. If we worked at linking > > to each other more efficiently and methodically, then the > > search engines' spider software would be more likely to find > > us as well. > > > > I have two websites that might be of interest to members of > > this listserve. > > > > This first website is an attempt to get math support > > services online for our community college students. The > > most popular pages are those involving the interactive > > quizzes and the fast facts. The "post a question" feature > > may become password-protected in the future, if volume and > > other considerations arise. > > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/olmlc.html > > > > This next one is a barely-begun project designed to become > > sort of a repository of resources for both educators and > > students looking at online learning (not math specific). > > With this one, I'm certain that I'm duplicating a number of > > resources that already exist, but I'm just not sure where > > they may be. > > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/flashydata.html > > > > Debbie Kell > > Mercer County Community College > > Trenton, NJ ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Mon Aug 9 22:25:39 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: From the host - we're 200! Message-ID: Hi, folks. Just to let you know that we passed the 200 mark on our subscription list today - my thanks to all of you who advertised the list to other groups. June ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Tue Aug 10 02:24:01 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Re: Finding and Sharing on-line Math Resources References: <37A9BD7A.FCC16C5B@bellatlantic.net> <37AF6FAA.6F563CF6@langara.bc.ca> <37AF73E7.36C21CC1@mathgoodies.com> Message-ID: <37AFC580.3F676D10@langara.bc.ca> Gisele Glosser wrote: > Perhaps we could learn from the SMARD Web Site at: > http://smard.cqu.edu.au/ > > Thay have done a nice job of listing resources by topic. > > Also, The GEM Project has "an automated database of resources with > metadata that include very detailed topic identification." > They are at: > http://www.geminfo.org/ These are both interesting, but neither is quite what I had in mind. (For one thing, both are directed primarily at K-12 teachers and I am looking for a resource that more senior *students* and their teachers can actually *learn* from) The GEM project is a good example of metadata in action, and includes very detailed item descriptions but not as detailed "topic identification" as I think we need for a student math resource. It also demonstrates some of the weaknesses of an automated system in that its listings for "Calculus" include many irrelevant entries and several pages of links to material that purportedly deals with 'calculus' at an early elementary school level (there are indeed appropriate 'foreshadowing' activities for calculus at the elementary level but that is not what is provided) (And yes, 'Dr.Math' operates at 'all levels' and tutors topics including 'calculus', but rarely answers calculus questions from kindergarten students!) Also the browsing system lists topics alphabetically without either a deep heirarichal breakdown or a *restricted* keyword search. And so we see a keyword list that includes both 'Mathematical concepts' and 'Mathematical Concepts' (listed several spaces apart!) The SMARD site has (imnsho) the right sort of heirarichal browsing structure, but has a teacher-oriented 'lesson *plan*' as opposed to *'lesson'* focus, and its materials are not themselves web-based. By this I mean that despite being available over the net, they are primarily word processor files that cannot be read by a web browser. There's nothing wrong with such a good 'electronic library' of teaching resources, it's just not what I had in mind. But you are right that the organization of the material is quite good. A site which does attempt to organize *web-based* 'learning objects' (but primarily just Java applets and not exclusively math and so without detailed topic breakdown) is the "Educational Object Economy" at http://www.eoe.org/ One problem with combining resources from all these sources - even 'by hand' with a human brain available to resolve ambiguities - is the lack of a common set of topic identifiers. So even if a computer could, if it wanted, easily combine 'Mathematical concepts' and 'Mathematical Concepts', it might miss adding a resource to its category 'Calculus/RatesOfChange/Average&Instantaneous' if that resource was listed in another service under 'Derivatives/Motivation/Secants&Tangents'. There may be little reason to prefer one or the other, but unless we can develop and adopt a common approach, quite soon we will not be able to take full advantage of the possibilities that this medium could provide if we let it. There are various groups working on these issues. One is meeting, as we 'speak', in Berkeley (as a pre-event to the ACM Digital Library conference) and their proceedings are reported in one of the MathForum discussion groups. But it may be worthwhile to have a similar discussion on this list, and whether or not we focus on the issues of 'metadata' and standardized topic descriptors, there are many interesting questions raised by Deborah Kell's posting. How can we and our students best locate material on the topic of any particular day's study by using currently available catalogues? How can we most effectively share our products so that our time and effort is well-used ? What kinds of resources are of most interest to ourselves and our students? How can we protect our students against wrong or misleading material? etc! Alan P.S. With regard to my own site, I would appreciate any feedback that any on this list care to provide, and especially any particular examples of good free web-based items that have not been included in the appropriate sections of our resource guide. =============================================================== Alan Cooper (acooper@langara.bc.ca , http://www.langara.bc.ca/~acooper) Dep't of Mathematics and Statistics (http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats) Langara College (http://www.langara.bc.ca ) 100 W 49th Ave. Vancouver BC Canada V5Y2Z6 Tel(604)323-5676,Fax(604)323-5555 ================================================================ ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From tctharm at tc.cc.va.us Mon Aug 16 17:22:03 1999 From: tctharm at tc.cc.va.us (Marcia Tharp) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Using Math ML to build web pages. Message-ID: Hi June and others, My name is Marcia Tharp. I currently run a mediated learning math lab and I have a grant to develop math web pages with other instructors at our community college. I am wondering if any one out there has used Math ML? And what you may think of it? My grant calls for giving some workshops on how to use it and then to teach a course online using the web pages? Can you give me any advice about using Math ML? Thanks for your comments, Marcia Tharp Dr. Marcia L.Tharp Associate Professor of Mathematics Thomas Moss Campus Tidewater Community College Room 3222, 300 Granby St., Norfolk, VA email tc.tharm@tc.cc.va.us homepage http://www.tc.cc.va.us/faculty/tctharm/index.htm 757-822-1327 ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jsdevitt at home.com Mon Aug 16 22:55:10 1999 From: jsdevitt at home.com (Stan Devitt) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Using Math ML to build web pages. References: Message-ID: <00a601bee85b$ebf013c0$9af47018@ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com> Hi, As one of the members of the MathML working group I'll take on the task of pointing you at some of the emerging and existing technologies. There are a number of choices as to how to proceed. A good starting place for information on how to generate and view MathML is the MathML newsletter that has been started by Geometry Technologies. (see http://www.webeq.com/webeq/feature/newsletter.html ) Of particular note in the current newsletter is the update on progress by the Mozilla group on incorporating MathML into browsers. For direct editing you want to take a look at WebEQ and MathType4.0 You should also take a look at new developments in techexplorer: http://www.software.ibm.com/network/techexplorer/ for rendering and the support for found in Mathematica 4.0 There are also a number of tex to mathml conversion tools starting to emerge. The MathML working group should be updating its resources page in the next little while and I will keep you posted. http://www.w3.org/Math/ ================== jsdevitt@ibm.net phone: (519)729-2365 fax: (519)729-0159 ================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcia Tharp To: Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: WebMath: Using Math ML to build web pages. > Hi June and others, > My name is Marcia Tharp. I currently run a mediated learning math lab and I have a grant to develop math web pages with other instructors at our community college. I am wondering if any one out there has used Math ML? And what you may think of it? My grant calls for giving some workshops on how to use it and then to teach a course online using the web pages? Can you give me any advice about using Math ML? > Thanks for your comments, > Marcia Tharp > > > > Dr. Marcia L.Tharp > Associate Professor of Mathematics > Thomas Moss Campus Tidewater Community College > Room 3222, 300 Granby St., Norfolk, VA > email tc.tharm@tc.cc.va.us > homepage http://www.tc.cc.va.us/faculty/tctharm/index.htm > 757-822-1327 > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From mathwrig at gte.net Tue Aug 17 18:18:43 1999 From: mathwrig at gte.net (James E. White) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Cubic equations Message-ID: <199908172206.RAA1073816@smtppop2.gte.net> Hi. My name is James White, and I would like to invite you to visit the Mathwright Library at: http://www.mathwright.com The Mathwright Library is a free collection of almost 150 interactive, electronic mathematics and science "books." These books have been developed by College and Secondary School mathematics and science teachers (and sometimes by their students) since 1991. Initially funded by the National Science Foundation and supported by the IBM Corporation, it has been in place on the web since 1994. Mathwright books are documents created with a mathematics authoring program called Mathwright. The books are only available for the Microsoft Windows ? platform, and the Library is compatible with all versions of Windows above 3.0, including Windows 98. The Library offers many services to teachers who may be interested in offering web-based mathematics or science courses, including: hosting their WorkBooks here, developing books for them, and providing the Mathwright Author Kit so that they may create their own materials. When you register in the Library on your first visit, you may download a free program, called the Mathwright Library Player, which is a "reader" for the books collected there. This reader is automatically installed with icons on the Start Menu at that time. After registration, you may browse the stacks, download any books or collections you please to your local machine. The books you select are opened in your browser, and are also installed with Start Menu icons, so that you may open and read them in the future, whether or not you are connected to the web. To give a sense of the sort of learning experience that is possible in a Mathwright WorkBook, I would like to invite you to look at one of our new books called "Cubic Equations". http://www.mathwright.com/book_pgs/book241.html That WorkBook summarizes some original work by James White and Dan Kalman and aims to present it in a form that will be accessible to an advanced undergraduate. It develops an approach to the study of Cardano's method for solving cubic equations that discloses certain new symmetries and points the way to generalization to higher degree equations. Those generalizations (to the quartic case) and remarks on difficulties with higher-degree cases are developed in detail in a forthcoming paper by White and Kalman. The approach taken in this WorkBook is to develop the algebra of "cubic numbers" which may be thought of either as 3x3 complex circulant matrices, or as the complex group algebra on the cyclic group of order 3. Pedagogically, of course, we do not present them in this rarified light here, but rather construct and explore them in our laboratories. Another new feature of this WorkBook is that it gives the reader an opportunity to experiment with certain rings of numbers, and to verify empirically the key facts that we visit along the way to Cardano's algorithm. In fact, the principal aim of the WorkBook is to bring the reader to such a clear understanding of the technique, its hidden structure and symmetry, that she will be tempted to explore higher-degree cases on her own thereafter. This WorkBook covers some elements of the theory of equations (but not many), and is meant to guide the reader to her own questions by presenting an old and venerable idea in a slightly new light. There are many exercises in the laboratories, some more challenging than others, but all aimed at clarifying some point of the exposition. If you would like to discuss any aspect of this WorkBook, or of the Mathwright Library in general, you may write to me at mathwrig@gte.net Enjoy, Jim White -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.cms.math.ca/pipermail/webmath/attachments/19990817/99b56586/attachment.htm From acooper at langara.bc.ca Wed Aug 18 04:13:35 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Cubic equations (and MathWrite) References: <199908172206.RAA1073816@smtppop2.gte.net> Message-ID: <37BA6B2F.B89AF97A@langara.bc.ca> The main reason I never adopted MathWrite myself (despite having been very impressed with some materials that I had seen made with MathKit) was because it appeared that the "free reader" could only access material in the proprietary MathWrite library and that to read material not submitted to (and accepted by) the library would require each student (or lab station) to pay an additional US$50 for the unrestricted reader. Thus if I compose using MathWrite my only effective puplic distribution channel is through the MathWrite library and if I want to prepare materials for my own students they each have to pay US$50 to someone else in order to read what I write. At first, when I read your posting, your reference to the "free reader" led me to think that I had misremembered something or maybe your policy had changed, but on checking your site I see that it's still the same. This is very disappointing. If I have misunderstood the situation, please clarify, and if not, please consider changing your marketing strategy by making the unrestricted reader freely downloadable. sincerely, Alan Cooper -- ====================================================================== Alan Cooper (acooper@langara.bc.ca , http://www.langara.bc.ca/~acooper) Dep't of Mathematics and Statistics (http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats) Langara College (http://www.langara.bc.ca ) 100 W 49th Ave. Vancouver BC Canada V5Y2Z6 Tel(604)323-5676,Fax(604)323-5555 ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Mon Aug 23 17:11:21 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: new puzzles at Math Goodies Message-ID: <37C1B8F5.68247119@mathgoodies.com> My puzzles section at Math Goodies has been expanded to 40 pages. I have 10 new crosswords, 10 new word searches, and solutions for each. Puzzle themes are from topics in math and computers. Each math puzzle corresponds to one of my lesson Volumes. You can see my puzzles at: http:/www.mathgoodies.com/puzzles/ Gisele ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Fri Aug 27 04:10:40 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Cubic equations (and Mathwright) References: <199908172206.RAA1073816@smtppop2.gte.net> <37BA6B2F.B89AF97A@langara.bc.ca> Message-ID: <37C64800.F2114A66@langara.bc.ca> There does seem to be a lot of nice interactive material in the Mathwright Library, it's certainly worth the time to download the viewer and take a look. Also Jim White might in fact be willing to provide users of the Mathwright authoring program with the wherewithall to make their material accessible via the free reader. This would certainly make it a more viable option for developing one's own material. Alan Cooper wrote: > The main reason I never adopted MathWrite myself (despite having been > very impressed with some materials that I had seen made with MathKit) > was because it appeared that the "free reader" could only access > material in the proprietary MathWrite library and that to read material > not submitted to (and accepted by) the library would require each > student (or lab station) to pay an additional US$50 for the unrestricted > reader. Thus if I compose using MathWrite my only effective puplic > distribution channel is through the MathWrite library and if I want to > prepare materials for my own students they each have to pay US$50 to > someone else in order to read what I write. > > At first, when I read your posting, your reference to the "free reader" > led me to think that I had misremembered something or maybe your policy > had changed, but on checking your site I see that it's still the same. > This is very disappointing. -- ====================================================================== Alan Cooper (acooper@langara.bc.ca , http://www.langara.bc.ca/~acooper) Dep't of Mathematics and Statistics (http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats) Langara College (http://www.langara.bc.ca ) 100 W 49th Ave. Vancouver BC Canada V5Y2Z6 Tel(604)323-5676,Fax(604)323-5555 ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acooper at langara.bc.ca Fri Aug 27 04:26:23 1999 From: acooper at langara.bc.ca (Alan Cooper) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:18 2005 Subject: WebMath: Re: Finding and Sharing on-line Math Resources References: <37A9BD7A.FCC16C5B@bellatlantic.net> <37AF6FAA.6F563CF6@langara.bc.ca> <37AF73E7.36C21CC1@mathgoodies.com> <37AFC580.3F676D10@langara.bc.ca> Message-ID: <37C64BAE.B0DF993E@langara.bc.ca> For anyone who is interested in the "Math Metadata" issue, the working group I referred to has an archive at the Math Forum of their on-line discussions, including reports from past meetings, and have just posted a report of their recent meeting at Berkeley. (see http://forum.swarthmore.edu/discussions/math_metadata/ ) Alan Cooper wrote (in part): > One problem with combining resources from all these sources - even 'by hand' > with a human brain available to resolve ambiguities - is the lack of a common > set of topic identifiers. So even if a computer could, if it wanted, easily > combine 'Mathematical concepts' and 'Mathematical Concepts', it might miss > adding a resource to its category > 'Calculus/RatesOfChange/Average&Instantaneous' if that resource was listed in > another service under 'Derivatives/Motivation/Secants&Tangents'. There may be > little reason to prefer one or the other, but unless we can develop and adopt > a common approach, quite soon we will not be able to take full advantage of > the possibilities that this medium could provide if we let it. > > There are various groups working on these issues. One is meeting, as we > 'speak', in Berkeley (as a pre-event to the ACM Digital Library conference) > and their proceedings are reported in one of the MathForum discussion groups. > But it may be worthwhile to have a similar discussion on this list, and > whether or not we focus on the issues of 'metadata' and standardized topic > descriptors, ...... -- ====================================================================== Alan Cooper (acooper@langara.bc.ca , http://www.langara.bc.ca/~acooper) Dep't of Mathematics and Statistics (http://www.langara.bc.ca/mathstats) Langara College (http://www.langara.bc.ca ) 100 W 49th Ave. Vancouver BC Canada V5Y2Z6 Tel(604)323-5676,Fax(604)323-5555 ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Thu Sep 2 22:53:56 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web Message-ID: I've been looking at currently existing methods for putting mathematical text up on the web, partly for an online calculus course I'm designing, and partly for a survey talk I'll be giving in a few weeks. I've looked at several methods, but none seems to be robust and flexible enough for extended use without a great deal of fiddling and hassles. I realize that we will soon(?) have browsers that support MathML (we have the editors already), but I need to know what works *now*, if somewhat imperfectly. If you have put up mathematics text on the web in any form, I would appreciate knowing a) how you did it (GIFs? applets? . . .) b) the URL for it, if it's public c) your opinions on the feasibility of doing it this way. Please reply to the list if you think your answer would be of general interest. (Experience-based warnings of the form "don't do it this way" are almost certainly of general interest :o) ) ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From kelld at bellatlantic.net Thu Sep 2 23:22:43 1999 From: kelld at bellatlantic.net (Deborah Kell) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web References: Message-ID: <37CF3F02.AC508484@bellatlantic.net> We've primarily used Equation Editor and uploaded the images as GIFs. Take a peek at our bulletin boards after clicking on "Post a Question for the ONLINE MATH WHIZ". Math On Line at: http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/olmlc.html Debbie Kell, Mercer County Community College June Lester wrote: > I've been looking at currently existing methods for putting mathematical > text up on the web, partly for an online calculus course I'm designing, and > partly for a survey talk I'll be giving in a few weeks. I've looked at > several methods, but none seems to be robust and flexible enough for > extended use without a great deal of fiddling and hassles. I realize that > we will soon(?) have browsers that support MathML (we have the editors > already), but I need to know what works *now*, if somewhat imperfectly. > > If you have put up mathematics text on the web in any form, I would > appreciate knowing > a) how you did it (GIFs? applets? . . .) > b) the URL for it, if it's public > c) your opinions on the feasibility of doing it this way. > > Please reply to the list if you think your answer would be of general > interest. (Experience-based warnings of the form "don't do it this way" are > almost certainly of general interest :o) ) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From J.Denholmprice at tesco.net Fri Sep 3 04:55:33 1999 From: J.Denholmprice at tesco.net (James Denholm-Price) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've primarily used Adobe PDF for distributing mathematical documents on the web, converting LaTeX -> PostScript -> PDF with GhostScript. This method is pretty easy, results in printable, hi-res. documents but the files are a bit bulky! Also, with Ghost only the default PostScript fonts are printed as fonts (Times etc.) -- all CM fonts etc. from LaTeX are vectors, take up more space & are slower to display. I imagine Adobe's Acrobat software is a better wasy of generating PDF, perhaps working with Word & En Ed., but I much prefer LaTeX for mathematical notation! I've also experimented with LaTeX2HTML (my notes are written mainly in LaTeX) and like it a lot, however my notes are designed to be printed rather than displayed & read online, so PDF is a better solution, thus far. Awaiting MathML! Have seen it demo'd in IE5 and it looks very promising for display purposes. James -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of June Lester Sent: 03 September 1999 03:54 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web If you have put up mathematics text on the web in any form, I would appreciate knowing a) how you did it (GIFs? applets? . . .) b) the URL for it, if it's public c) your opinions on the feasibility of doing it this way. ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From davidc at nag.co.uk Fri Sep 3 05:20:22 1999 From: davidc at nag.co.uk (David Carlisle) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199909030920.KAA14032@nag.co.uk> I've primarily used Adobe PDF for distributing mathematical documents on the web, converting LaTeX -> PostScript -> PDF with GhostScript. This method is pretty easy, results in printable, hi-res. documents but the files are a bit bulky! Also, with Ghost only the default PostScript fonts are printed as fonts (Times etc.) -- all CM fonts etc. from LaTeX are vectors, take up more space & are slower to display. I gather recent (beta) versions ghostscript can now deal with type1 fonts. There are other free ways of getting from tex to pdf that don't have this problem, eg using pdftex to make pdf directly, or using dvipdfm to convert from dvi to pdf, or using pstill rather than gs to convert from ps to pdf. I imagine Adobe's Acrobat software is a better wasy of generating PDF, perhaps working with Word & En Ed., but I much prefer LaTeX for mathematical notation! You can also of course use acrobat distiller to convert latex/dvips generated ps to pdf. (This is probably the best way if the document has a lot of postscript figures.) I've also experimented with LaTeX2HTML (my notes are written mainly in LaTeX) and like it a lot, however my notes are designed to be printed rather than displayed & read online, so PDF is a better solution, thus far. Awaiting MathML! Have seen it demo'd in IE5 and it looks very promising for display purposes. There is also a team working on adding mathml to the `mozilla' open source version of netscape, the results of their efforts are really quite promising (see the mozilla-mathml@mozilla.org mailing list or its associated mozilla newsgroup). David ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From husch at math.utk.edu Fri Sep 3 05:40:51 1999 From: husch at math.utk.edu (Larry Husch) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi- When I started putting my calculus materials online, I used gifs. While I continue to use gifs, I get a lot more flexibility using three other methods: 1. MathType objects embedded in a Macromedia Flash movie. See any of the tutorials on http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/ This requires the use of Shockwave Flash plug-in but this plug-in now comes with both Netscape and IE. 2. HotEqn - This is a Java applet that will let you put math on the web using TeX. See http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/2/definition.9/index.html for an example which uses Javascript to change the equations randomly. The problem with this method is that it is slow although it does seems faster when using IE 5.0. 3. IBM Pro. TechExplorer (or Maple Explorer) which will let you put math on the web using either TeX or MathML. These are plug-ins which you can purchase from IBM (or Maple). IBM also provides a limited version of the plug-in for free. I have some pages which requires the use of the full version: http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/2/definition.9/index-te.html which does the same thing as the example in #2 above. It is a lot faster but does not work with IE. The free version will not let you interact with Javascript but will work also on IE. Best, Larry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Larry Husch phone: 423-974-4162 fax: 423-974-6576 Mathematics Department http://www.math.utk.edu/~husch University of Tennessee Co-Director, Mathematics Archives Knoxville, TN 37996-1300 http://archives.math.utk.edu/ On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, June Lester wrote: > I've been looking at currently existing methods for putting mathematical > text up on the web, partly for an online calculus course I'm designing, and > partly for a survey talk I'll be giving in a few weeks. I've looked at > several methods, but none seems to be robust and flexible enough for > extended use without a great deal of fiddling and hassles. I realize that > we will soon(?) have browsers that support MathML (we have the editors > already), but I need to know what works *now*, if somewhat imperfectly. > > If you have put up mathematics text on the web in any form, I would > appreciate knowing > a) how you did it (GIFs? applets? . . .) > b) the URL for it, if it's public > c) your opinions on the feasibility of doing it this way. > > Please reply to the list if you think your answer would be of general > interest. (Experience-based warnings of the form "don't do it this way" are > almost certainly of general interest :o) ) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From D.K.Smith at exeter.ac.uk Fri Sep 3 05:41:56 1999 From: D.K.Smith at exeter.ac.uk (David K Smith) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501bef5f0$8fb65540$c34fad90@ex.ac.uk> Like James Denholm-Price, I have used LaTeX and posted material in PDF format. My approach has been via the free MikTeX suite of programs, which include PDFTeX and PDFLaTeX in the complete distribution. So there is only one stage to go through, rather than James' converting LaTeX -> PostScript -> PDF with GhostScript. the only disadvantage that I have found so far is with the use of \special commands, which are unpredictable. The one which I use most often involves piktex, where a postscript special exists to convert straight line \plots into postscript plots. With PDFTeX, this doesn't work, so plotted straight lines can use a lot of memory! Just my two pennies/cents worth David S -- Dr David K Smith, School of Mathematical Sciences, University of Exeter, Exeter, Devon, UK email:D.K.Smith@exeter.ac.uk WWW: http://msor0.ex.ac.uk/Staff/DKSmith/HomePage.html from the AA Essential German phrase book: Es wimmelt hier von Mucken (This place is full of mosquitoes) Es wimmelt hier von Kakerlaken (This place is full of cockroaches) ... and even worse ... Es wimmelt hier von Briten. (This place is full of Brits) ----------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From kelld at mccc.edu Fri Sep 3 08:44:31 1999 From: kelld at mccc.edu (Debbie Kell) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web References: <000501bef5f0$8fb65540$c34fad90@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <37CFC2AF.9E7EE0D6@mccc.edu> What about supporting the students in writing math for the web? How about that dialogue between student and teacher? E-mail, chat rooms, bulletin boards? Some of these approaches involve skills and products that I'm not sure the students could manage. I'd love to hear what folks have used to facilitate student interaction? David K Smith wrote: > Like James Denholm-Price, I have used LaTeX and posted material in PDF > format. My approach has been via the free MikTeX suite of programs, which > include PDFTeX and PDFLaTeX in the complete distribution. So there is only > one stage to go through, rather than James' converting LaTeX -> > PostScript -> PDF with GhostScript. > the only disadvantage that I have found so far is with the use of \special > commands, which are unpredictable. The one which I use most often involves > piktex, where a postscript special exists to convert straight line \plots > into postscript plots. With PDFTeX, this doesn't work, so plotted straight > lines can use a lot of memory! > > Just my two pennies/cents worth > David S > -- > Dr David K Smith, School of Mathematical Sciences, University of Exeter, > Exeter, Devon, UK > email:D.K.Smith@exeter.ac.uk > WWW: http://msor0.ex.ac.uk/Staff/DKSmith/HomePage.html > from the AA Essential German phrase book: > Es wimmelt hier von Mucken (This place is full of mosquitoes) > Es wimmelt hier von Kakerlaken (This place is full of cockroaches) > ... and even worse ... > Es wimmelt hier von Briten. (This place is full of Brits) > ----------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From bishopp at for.mat.bham.ac.uk Fri Sep 3 11:44:51 1999 From: bishopp at for.mat.bham.ac.uk (Pam Bishop) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199909031544.QAA06428@for.mat.bham.ac.uk> > If you have put up mathematics text on the web in any form, I would > appreciate knowing > a) how you did it (GIFs? applets? . . .) > b) the URL for it, if it's public > c) your opinions on the feasibility of doing it this way. List members may like to view two relevant articles/reviews that have been published in the quarterly newsletter Maths&Stats, which has an index at http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/newsletter/news1.htm The articles can be found at: http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/reviews/feb98/browsers.htm http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/reviews/aug98/maths-on-web.pdf Best wishes, Pam Bishop =============================================================== CTI Mathematics ctimath@bham.ac.uk School of Mathematics and Statistics The University of Birmingham tel 0121-414 7095 Birmingham B15 2TT fax 0121-414 3389 One of 24 CTI subject centres working to encourage the use of computers for teaching and learning in Higher Education. Our Web pages can be found at http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/ =============================================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Fri Sep 3 14:32:10 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: <37CFC2AF.9E7EE0D6@mccc.edu> References: <000501bef5f0$8fb65540$c34fad90@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: Debbie Kell wrote: >What about supporting the students in writing math for the web? How about >that dialogue between student and teacher? E-mail, chat rooms, bulletin >boards? Some of these approaches involve skills and products that I'm not >sure the students could manage. I'd love to hear what folks have used to >facilitate student interaction? > So would I - student/tutor-marker communication is another problem (er, sorry, "challenge" :o) ) that we're facing. What I would like is some sort of whiteboard, rather than any math web-typesetting software, since it would keep communication faster and more spontaneous than if the students had to create equations separately. And because we'd like to be able to communicate diagrams back and forth, if possible. And it has to be cross-platform (Mac/PC) and either free or fairly cheap. We're already going to require the students to buy some CAS/graphing software, probably LiveMath/MathView/Theorist , and can't really justify asking them to pay much for more software on top of that. (We already have FirstClass for email, chat, etc., so that's not an issue.) Suggestions/experiences anyone? ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Fri Sep 3 15:06:43 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: <199909031544.QAA06428@for.mat.bham.ac.uk> References: Message-ID: Thanks, Pam. The first article has a very useful list. However, there are some limitations not clear from the latter article. 1. TechExplorer only runs on Windows machines. 2. TtH relies on the symbol font to work. Apparently (i.e. as far as I've been able to find out), IE on the Mac and both NN and IE on PCs won't recognize the symbol font. (Try changing your font preferences to symbol to check this - you should get a mess of Greek.) Even/especially within the ... tag, it doesn't work (at least for me). I can get it to work with NN on a Mac. This has something to do with the encodings used in the browsers, but I still don't have an explanation or workaround. :o( >List members may like to view two relevant articles/reviews that have been >published in the quarterly newsletter Maths&Stats, which has an index at >http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/newsletter/news1.htm > >The articles can be found at: > >http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/reviews/feb98/browsers.htm >http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/reviews/aug98/maths-on-web.pdf ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From mathwrig at gte.net Fri Sep 3 18:15:03 1999 From: mathwrig at gte.net (James White) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At the Mathwright Library, we place mathematical content: displayed formulas, text, pictures, matrices, etc. into our Math Edit Fields. We use, of course, a Proprietary format which only the Mathwright Library Player can use, and so it is not useful for generic web content. Still, the Player is freeware, easily deliverable to all readers, and as Alan Cooper has mentioned, we plan to make the Author program (in which these documents are created) compatible with the free player. So authors may easily create mathematical content for their students and embed that content in hypertext pages with illustrations, screen snapshots, and Interactive (modifiable) mathematical expressions, descriptive text, and matrices by this means. The new version of the Author Program will be announced in our upcoming newsletter. If you are interested in learning more, please visit us at www.mathwright.com and Register for our Newsletter. Jim White -----Original Message----- From: owner-webmath@camel.math.ca [mailto:owner-webmath@camel.math.ca]On Behalf Of June Lester Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 7:54 PM To: webmath@camel.math.ca Subject: WebMath: math text on the web I've been looking at currently existing methods for putting mathematical text up on the web, partly for an online calculus course I'm designing, and partly for a survey talk I'll be giving in a few weeks. I've looked at several methods, but none seems to be robust and flexible enough for extended use without a great deal of fiddling and hassles. I realize that we will soon(?) have browsers that support MathML (we have the editors already), but I need to know what works *now*, if somewhat imperfectly. If you have put up mathematics text on the web in any form, I would appreciate knowing a) how you did it (GIFs? applets? . . .) b) the URL for it, if it's public c) your opinions on the feasibility of doing it this way. Please reply to the list if you think your answer would be of general interest. (Experience-based warnings of the form "don't do it this way" are almost certainly of general interest :o) ) ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From davidc at nag.co.uk Fri Sep 3 17:26:52 1999 From: davidc at nag.co.uk (David Carlisle) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: (message from June Lester on Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:06:43 -0700) References: Message-ID: <199909032126.WAA10924@nag.co.uk> > 1. TechExplorer only runs on Windows machines. and most flavours of unix. (sun, AIX, linux, ...) > 2. TtH relies on the symbol font to work. Apparently (i.e. as far as > I've the tth pages have fairly full instructions on how to set this up on the various platforms. David ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Fri Sep 3 18:44:13 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web In-Reply-To: <199909032126.WAA10924@nag.co.uk> References: (message from June Lester on Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:06:43 -0700) Message-ID: David Carlisle wrote: >> 2. TtH relies on the symbol font to work. . . . >the tth pages have fairly full instructions on how to set this up on the >various platforms. Hmmm. Using IE4.5 on a Mac (just checked again), I cannot get http://hutchinson.belmont.ma.us/tth/in_action.html to display correctly using any of the three Western character sets in IE, and letting the page decide the fonts (i.e. using the instructions on that page). (In fact, only when I use the Western(Mac) character set does IE recognize my prop. font preference to be Times - for the other two, it switches to a sans serif font - Ariel, I think, but the preferences still say Times. Relevant?????) The online TtH manual has instructions for X-fonts, and for Macs: I can get them to work for NN(Mac), but not IE(Mac). There are no instructions for PCs under "9: Browser Problems", and the last time I checked this on a PC, I couldn't get it to work there - in fact, for IE, the symbol font was not even displayed as one of those allowed under the browser font preferences. (All testing using the latest versions.) The problem clearly has to do with which fonts are allowed with which character sets somehow . . . If you or anyone else can get the above page to display correctly with IE(Mac) or with a recent PC browser, I'd really like to know how - it'd be very helpful. :o) Or point me to the relevant manual page. ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From vincent.demolombe at wanadoo.fr Sat Sep 4 01:17:18 1999 From: vincent.demolombe at wanadoo.fr (vincent demolombe) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web Message-ID: <02a301d206f6$86b81c60$78d28aa4@default> one way is to write maths-formula into GIFs. in order to read and save a web-page with all the GIFs it contains, we can use FrontPage Express( included in IE4 package). vincent demolombe. ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From vilya at nag.co.uk Mon Sep 6 06:31:05 1999 From: vilya at nag.co.uk (Vilya Harvey) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web References: (message from June Lester on Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:06:43 -0700) Message-ID: <37D397E9.16671336@nag.co.uk> June Lester wrote: > Hmmm. Using IE4.5 on a Mac (just checked again), I cannot get > > http://hutchinson.belmont.ma.us/tth/in_action.html > > to display correctly using any of the three Western character sets in > IE, and letting the page decide the fonts (i.e. using the instructions > on that page). > If you or anyone else can get the above page to display correctly with > IE(Mac) or with a recent PC browser, I'd really like to know how - it'd > be very helpful. :o) Or point me to the relevant manual page. I tested both pages using Netscape Communicator 4.6 and Internet Explorer 5.0 under Windows NT. Both displayed the page just fine, without needing any settings changed. Hope that helps, Vil. -- Vilya Harvey Wilkinson House Mob: +44 961 106 505 Computational Mathematics Group Jordan Hill Road Wk: +44 1865 511 245 NAG Limited Oxford UK OX2 8DR Fax: +44 1865 311 205 ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From msharma at ibm.net Mon Sep 6 09:22:20 1999 From: msharma at ibm.net (msharma@ibm.net) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: math text on the web References: (message from June Lester on Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:06:43 -0700) <37D397E9.16671336@nag.co.uk> Message-ID: <37D3C00C.5B65DECB@ibm.net> I also used Netscape Communicator 4.6 and Internet Explorer 5.0 under Windows NT. Both displayed the page just fine, without needing any settings changed. Hope that helps, Mahesh Sharma Vilya Harvey wrote: > June Lester wrote: > > Hmmm. Using IE4.5 on a Mac (just checked again), I cannot get > > > > http://hutchinson.belmont.ma.us/tth/in_action.html > > > > to display correctly using any of the three Western character sets in > > IE, and letting the page decide the fonts (i.e. using the instructions > > on that page). > > > If you or anyone else can get the above page to display correctly with > > IE(Mac) or with a recent PC browser, I'd really like to know how - it'd > > be very helpful. :o) Or point me to the relevant manual page. > > I tested both pages using Netscape Communicator 4.6 and Internet Explorer > 5.0 under Windows NT. Both displayed the page just fine, without needing > any settings changed. > > Hope that helps, > Vil. > -- > Vilya Harvey Wilkinson House Mob: +44 961 106 505 > Computational Mathematics Group Jordan Hill Road Wk: +44 1865 511 245 > NAG Limited Oxford UK OX2 8DR Fax: +44 1865 311 205 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Wed Sep 8 21:04:44 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WebMath: Math Teachers Needed! Message-ID: <37D707AB.F2AFC3EA@mathgoodies.com> Math Goodies is a free educational site featuring interactive math lessons. Our Homework Help Message Board has been getting 50 questions a day from students. We have several teachers who volunteer time to answer questions. However, they are swamped with questions and could use some help. If you are willing to guide students with their homework, please visit: http://www.mathgoodies.com/private-cgi-bin/homework_help.cgi The board optionally uses e-mail to notify people that messages have been posted. It also allows the use of HTML tags, making it easier to express math symbols. Your help is greatly appreciated! Gisele Glosser ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From bonsai at cam.org Mon Sep 20 14:32:37 1999 From: bonsai at cam.org (Les Productions =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bonsa=EF?=) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: math and shockwave Message-ID: <37E67DB9.B8EBB9C3@cam.org> Dear friends, I have recently downloaded the latest version of the shockwave plug-in ( www.macromedia.com ). It comes equiped with a "remote control" type of interface that lets the user pause or play the shockwave animations that are displayed within his/her browser. This "remote control" has another very interesting feature: it makes it possible to search the web for sites that incorporate shockwave files. I typed "math" in the remote control's search window and was gratified with an interesting list of sites that are related to math and that have a rich multimedia content. We are now working on a website that will be used to teach basic math to adults. We intend to incorporate lots of multimedia because it allows concrete and interactive experiences. I found great ideas in the shockwaved math sites I visited and I wanted to share that with you. I would certainly be interested to hear from you about sites that make a good use of multimedia for mathematics. Many thanks, Andre -- -- Andr? Vanasse Les Productions Bonsa? 6679 Drolet Montr?al, Qc Canada H2S 2S9 Tel.: (514) 495-4024 avanasse@aei.ca bonsai@cam.org La vid?o et le multim?dia au service de l'?ducation populaire et de l'action sociale ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Mon Sep 20 15:31:01 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: MathML editing in HTML editors? Message-ID: A question: I know there are several groups working at producing MathML editors for use once the browsers support MathML, but does anyone know if HTML editors like, e.g., Adobe Golive or Macromedia Dreamweaver will include direct MathML editing support in the near future (not just for XML)? It would be very useful to have MathML editing directly in the HTML editor rather than as a separate tool, but I haven't seen or heard anything, rumour or otherwise, that indicates that this is planned. ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From sharp at unb.ca Mon Sep 20 15:57:38 1999 From: sharp at unb.ca (Allan Sharp) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: MathML editing in HTML editors? References: Message-ID: <030701bf03a2$63fa8150$524fca83@physics.unb.ca> Regarding June Lester's question about HTML editors featuring native MathML support, I have put in requests to three software companies to consider it for their products but have only received the usual "Thank you for your suggestion" automatic response. The three I contacted were Dreamweaver and FrontPage among HTML editors (they are the two that I use for my work, each with its own advantages), and Adobe FrameMaker. The latter has a very good equation editor which is by far the simplest to use (although not as elegant as Tex in the layout). At the moment it exports gif files either directly or by using Quadralay's WebWorks Publisher (which is a more powerful FrameMaker to HTML conversion program than what is built in to FrameMaker). I have asked for a MathML output capability for both FrameMaker and Quadralay. I have no information about what they are planning, but presumably their plans will improve if they are convinced that there is a high demand. **************************************************** Dr. Allan R. Sharp Dean of Science UNB Fredericton sharp@unb.ca Voice: (506) 453-4586 Fax: (506) 453-3570 Mail: PO Box 4400 Fredericton, NB Canada, E3B 5A3 **************************************************** Subject: WebMath: MathML editing in HTML editors? > A question: I know there are several groups working at producing MathML > editors for use once the browsers support MathML, but does anyone know if > HTML editors like, e.g., Adobe Golive or Macromedia Dreamweaver will > include direct MathML editing support in the near future (not just for > XML)? It would be very useful to have MathML editing directly in the HTML > editor rather than as a separate tool, but I haven't seen or heard > anything, rumour or otherwise, that indicates that this is planned. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From sharp at unb.ca Mon Sep 20 15:57:38 1999 From: sharp at unb.ca (Allan Sharp) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: MathML editing in HTML editors? References: Message-ID: <030701bf03a2$63fa8150$524fca83@physics.unb.ca> Regarding June Lester's question about HTML editors featuring native MathML support, I have put in requests to three software companies to consider it for their products but have only received the usual "Thank you for your suggestion" automatic response. The three I contacted were Dreamweaver and FrontPage among HTML editors (they are the two that I use for my work, each with its own advantages), and Adobe FrameMaker. The latter has a very good equation editor which is by far the simplest to use (although not as elegant as Tex in the layout). At the moment it exports gif files either directly or by using Quadralay's WebWorks Publisher (which is a more powerful FrameMaker to HTML conversion program than what is built in to FrameMaker). I have asked for a MathML output capability for both FrameMaker and Quadralay. I have no information about what they are planning, but presumably their plans will improve if they are convinced that there is a high demand. **************************************************** Dr. Allan R. Sharp Dean of Science UNB Fredericton sharp@unb.ca Voice: (506) 453-4586 Fax: (506) 453-3570 Mail: PO Box 4400 Fredericton, NB Canada, E3B 5A3 **************************************************** Subject: WebMath: MathML editing in HTML editors? > A question: I know there are several groups working at producing MathML > editors for use once the browsers support MathML, but does anyone know if > HTML editors like, e.g., Adobe Golive or Macromedia Dreamweaver will > include direct MathML editing support in the near future (not just for > XML)? It would be very useful to have MathML editing directly in the HTML > editor rather than as a separate tool, but I haven't seen or heard > anything, rumour or otherwise, that indicates that this is planned. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Wed Sep 22 21:45:17 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: MathML output again Message-ID: A propos my question a few days back re MathML output and Allan's reply: I'd be interested in compiling a list of just which software packages currently will output MathML. Aside from direct editors and LaTeX converters such as mathType and WebEQ, I know that the latest Mathematica does - are there other math packages that do? Or that are promising to do so soon? Also useful would be info on which packages output math of any sort in HTML pages (e.g. Maple will output pages with GIF equations). TIA for any info, rumours or otherwise. ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From berth at uni-greifswald.de Thu Sep 23 03:58:56 1999 From: berth at uni-greifswald.de (Matthias Berth) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: MathML output again References: Message-ID: <37E9DDC0.22F090FC@uni-greifswald.de> June Lester wrote: > > Also useful would be info on which packages output math of any > sort in HTML pages (e.g. Maple will output pages with GIF equations). Have a look at http://paul.math-inf.uni-greifswald.de/Cathode2/mathnotation.html for some pointers. -- Matthias ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From gfratus at for.mat.bham.ac.uk Thu Sep 23 04:43:41 1999 From: gfratus at for.mat.bham.ac.uk (Greig Fratus) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: MathML output again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199909230843.JAA13855@for.mat.bham.ac.uk> CTI Mathematics (http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/) recently held 2 workshops on MathML in conjunction with the CTI centres for Physics, Statistics, and Engineering. A report of this workshop will appear in the next issue of the CTI Mathematics and Statistics newsletter Maths&Stats which comes out in November. Mention of this and some links appears in the June report on CTI Mathematics activities (http://w3.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/newsletter/june99.htm) as well as the July report (http://w3.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/newsletter/july99.htm) Some other pages to look at include: http://www.w3.org/Math/ http://www.openmath.org/ http://w3.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/workshops/practical.htm http://www.software.ibm.com/network/techexplorer/ http://www.lfw.org/math/ Date sent: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:45:17 -0700 To: webmath@camel.math.ca From: June Lester Subject: WebMath: MathML output again Send reply to: webmath@camel.math.ca > A propos my question a few days back re MathML output and Allan's reply: > I'd be interested in compiling a list of just which software packages > currently will output MathML. Aside from direct editors and LaTeX > converters such as mathType and WebEQ, I know that the latest Mathematica > does - are there other math packages that do? Or that are promising to do > so soon? Also useful would be info on which packages output math of any > sort in HTML pages (e.g. Maple will output pages with GIF equations). > > TIA for any info, rumours or otherwise. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- =============================== Greig Fratus Information Officer CTI Mathematics School of Mathematics and Statistics University of Birmingham Edgbaston Birmingham B15 2TT Tel: 0121 414 7670 Fax: 0121 414 3389 Email: ctimath@bham.ac.uk URL: http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/ ========================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Thu Sep 23 12:19:47 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: Millennium Countdown Clock Message-ID: <37EA5321.9ADDFDDD@mathgoodies.com> I have just added two Millennium Countdown Clocks to Math Goodies. One of them counts down to the year 2000, and the other to the year 2001. These countdown clocks can be accessed from: http://www.mathgoodies.com/calculators/ Gisele Glosser ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Tue Oct 5 16:35:33 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: Interactive Probability Lessons Message-ID: <37FA6109.8E18142A@mathgoodies.com> Math Goodies is a free educational site featuring interactive math lessons. We also offer homework help, puzzles, chat boards and more. We have just added 10 lessons on Probability to our Lesson Library. Have you ever rolled a pair of dice on a web page? How about spinning a spinner? These are some of the things students can do as they interact with our probability lessons! Come and see them at: http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/toc_vol6.shtm Gisele Glosser ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-webmath at camel.math.ca Tue Oct 5 16:29:37 1999 From: owner-webmath at camel.math.ca (owner-webmath@camel.math.ca) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <9910052029.AA00837@red.nag.co.uk> ***** UNDELIVERABLE MAIL sent to davidc, being returned by red.nag.co.uk!davidc ***** mail: Error # 2 'Problem with mailfile' encountered on system red.nag.co.uk Received: from nagmx1.nag.co.uk by red.nag.co.uk via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for miker id AA00828; Tue, 5 Oct 99 21:29:27 +0100 Received: from co.camel.math.ca ([142.58.12.10]) by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25319; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:35:17 +0100 (BST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by co.camel.math.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA62884 for webmath-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:19:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: co.camel.math.ca: majordomo set sender to owner-webmath@camel.math.ca using -f Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h005.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.76]) by co.camel.math.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA62856 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (cpmta 23464 invoked from network); 5 Oct 1999 13:18:45 -0700 Received: from glosser.dialup.cloud9.net (HELO mathgoodies.com) (168.100.204.221) by smtp.mathgoodies.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 1999 13:18:45 -0700 X-Sent: 5 Oct 1999 20:18:45 GMT Message-Id: <37FA6109.8E18142A@mathgoodies.com> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 16:35:33 -0400 From: Gisele Glosser Organization: Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "webmath@mail.math.ca" Subject: WebMath: Interactive Probability Lessons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-webmath@camel.math.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-To: webmath@camel.math.ca Math Goodies is a free educational site featuring interactive math lessons. We also offer homework help, puzzles, chat boards and more. We have just added 10 lessons on Probability to our Lesson Library. Have you ever rolled a pair of dice on a web page? How about spinning a spinner? These are some of the things students can do as they interact with our probability lessons! Come and see them at: http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/toc_vol6.shtm Gisele Glosser ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From kelld at bellatlantic.net Mon Oct 11 20:58:30 1999 From: kelld at bellatlantic.net (Deborah Kell) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: compilation References: <199909230843.JAA13855@for.mat.bham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <380287B4.7E049311@bellatlantic.net> I have been saving comments relating to publishing math on the web from this and other listservs over the past year. I have created a compilation of approaches and techniques that folks in the field seem to be using. I'd love to have some feedback. Any errors? Omissions? Thanks in advance for your comments. http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/mathonweb99.htm Debbie Kell ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Mon Oct 11 22:26:10 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: list o' links Message-ID: I gave a talk a week or so back on Math on the Web, and it was suggested that I pass along the list of talk links: You may find some of these meaningless outside the context of the talk (see the abstract) - YMMV. In particular, some come with warnings of "don't do it this way" :o). ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From husch at math.utk.edu Tue Oct 12 06:32:33 1999 From: husch at math.utk.edu (Larry Husch) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: compilation In-Reply-To: <380287B4.7E049311@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: Debbie- Very nice compilation! I would like to add another package: HotEqn from the Virtual Control Lab (http://www.esr.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/VCLab/software/HotEqn/HotEqn.html) It's a java applet which will render TEX. One nice feature is that you can interface this with javascript to randomly generate problems on the web. See http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/2/definition.9/index.html for an example. The only problem is that it is slow. Also- the IBM TechExplorer is available as a part of the Maple Explorer (from Maplesoft); the Maple Explorer interfaces the browser with the Maple program also. Both will render MathML. You can also interface TechExplorer (the professional version) with javascript as like the example above. See http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/2/definition.9/index-te.html You will need to have the professional version installed to view this page. Best, Larry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Larry Husch phone: 423-974-4162 fax: 423-974-6576 Mathematics Department http://www.math.utk.edu/~husch University of Tennessee Co-Director, Mathematics Archives Knoxville, TN 37996-1300 http://archives.math.utk.edu/ On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Deborah Kell wrote: > I have been saving comments relating to publishing math on the web from this and > other listservs over the past year. I have created a compilation of approaches > and techniques that folks in the field seem to be using. I'd love to have some > feedback. Any errors? Omissions? Thanks in advance for your comments. > > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/mathonweb99.htm > > Debbie Kell > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From husch at math.utk.edu Tue Oct 12 08:32:34 1999 From: husch at math.utk.edu (husch@math.utk.edu) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: compilation In-Reply-To: References: <380287B4.7E049311@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <199910121224.FAA92495@co.camel.math.ca> Hi- Pam Bishop from CTI has informed me that Maple Explorer is no longer available. Larry > Debbie- > > Very nice compilation! I would like to add another package: > > HotEqn from the Virtual Control Lab > (http://www.esr.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/VCLab/software/HotEqn/HotEqn.html) > > It's a java applet which will render TEX. One nice feature is that you > can interface this with javascript to randomly generate problems on the > web. See > > http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/2/definition.9/index.html > > for an example. The only problem is that it is slow. > > Also- the IBM TechExplorer is available as a part of the Maple Explorer > (from Maplesoft); the Maple Explorer interfaces the browser with the Maple > program also. Both will render MathML. > > You can also interface TechExplorer (the professional version) with > javascript as like the example above. See > > http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/2/definition.9/index-te.html > > You will need to have the professional version installed to view this > page. > > Best, > Larry > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Larry Husch phone: 423-974-4162 fax: 423-974-6576 > Mathematics Department http://www.math.utk.edu/~husch University of > Tennessee Co-Director, Mathematics Archives Knoxville, TN 37996-1300 > http://archives.math.utk.edu/ > > On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Deborah Kell wrote: > > > I have been saving comments relating to publishing math on the web from > > this and other listservs over the past year. I have created a > > compilation of approaches and techniques that folks in the field seem to > > be using. I'd love to have some feedback. Any errors? Omissions? > > Thanks in advance for your comments. > > > > http://www.mccc.edu/~kelld/mathonweb99.htm > > > > Debbie Kell > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > > To unsubscribe: > > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ Larry Husch phone:423-974-4162 fax:423-974-6576 Dept.Mathematics http://www.math.utk.edu/~husch Univ. Tennessee Co-Director, Mathematics Archives Knoxville, TN 37996 http://archives.math.utk.edu/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Tue Oct 12 11:25:58 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: Probability Puzzles Message-ID: <38035302.F0CC4BFD@mathgoodies.com> Math Goodies recently added 10 Probability Lessons to our site. We have just added 2 corresponding Probability Puzzles to our Puzzle Library, as well as the solutions to each puzzle. You can see these new puzzles at: http:/www.mathgoodies.com/puzzles/ Gisele Glosser ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Tue Oct 12 23:20:19 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: Probability Puzzles References: <38035302.F0CC4BFD@mathgoodies.com> Message-ID: <3803FA6B.67490784@mathgoodies.com> Oops - the correct url is: http://www.mathgoodies.com/puzzles/ Gisele Gisele Glosser wrote: > > Math Goodies recently added 10 Probability Lessons to our site. > We have just added 2 corresponding Probability Puzzles to our > Puzzle Library, as well as the solutions to each puzzle. You > can see these new puzzles at: > > http:/www.mathgoodies.com/puzzles/ > > Gisele Glosser > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % % Interactive math lessons with a problem-solving approach! % % % % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From m.brennan at lineone.net Wed Oct 13 15:07:23 1999 From: m.brennan at lineone.net (Michael Brennan) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: LOGO Message-ID: <002001bf15ae$33093f00$290c063e@default> I would be grateful for recommendations of a LOGO package that is 'fun and self contained' that I could use for Secondary pupils aged 10-13. The best I have seen is LOGOWRITER but this is now a few years old and was wondering whether anyone knew of a better package for use on PCs. Thanks ********************************************************************* Michael Brennan m.brennan@lineone.net ********************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.cms.math.ca/pipermail/webmath/attachments/19991013/848f0aee/attachment.htm From PRMLMU at aol.com Wed Oct 13 16:39:22 1999 From: PRMLMU at aol.com (PRMLMU@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:20 2005 Subject: WebMath: LOGO Message-ID: <0.c5406a72.253647fa@aol.com> I use Berkeley Logo, mainly because it's free. It fits on a floppy disk and comes complete with a downloadable manual. Paul Paul Marshall TES Carnegie Hall Leeds Metropolitan University Beckett Park Leeds LS6 3QS Tel: +44 (0)113 2832600 ext 3794 Fax: +44 (0)113 2837410 Email: Work p.marshall@lmu.ac.uk Home prmlmu@aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From m.brennan at lineone.net Thu Oct 14 17:16:05 1999 From: m.brennan at lineone.net (Michael Brennan) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: LOGO References: <0.c5406a72.253647fa@aol.com> Message-ID: <002101bf1689$54bbfd00$2c19063e@default> Thanks Paul I will take a look at this ... ********************************************************************* Michael Brennan m.brennan@lineone.net ********************************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 13 October 1999 21:39 Subject: Re: WebMath: LOGO > I use Berkeley Logo, mainly because it's free. It fits on a floppy disk and > comes complete with a downloadable manual. > > Paul > > Paul Marshall > TES > Carnegie Hall > Leeds Metropolitan University > Beckett Park > Leeds > LS6 3QS > Tel: +44 (0)113 2832600 ext 3794 Fax: +44 (0)113 2837410 > Email: Work p.marshall@lmu.ac.uk Home prmlmu@aol.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From PRMLMU at aol.com Sun Oct 17 15:28:20 1999 From: PRMLMU at aol.com (PRMLMU@aol.com) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: LOGO Message-ID: <0.58250e63.253b7d54@aol.com> In a message dated 15/10/99 00:55:19 GMT Daylight Time, m.brennan@lineone.net writes: << Thanks Paul I will take a look at this ... ********************************************************************* Michael Brennan m.brennan@lineone.net ********************************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 13 October 1999 21:39 Subject: Re: WebMath: LOGO > I use Berkeley Logo, mainly because it's free. It fits on a floppy disk and > comes complete with a downloadable manual. > > Paul >> I got it from: George Mills 33 Thoreau Road, Northboro MA 01532 USA email: mills@athena.tay.dec.com but this was some time ago - he might have moved. If you don't get any joy, send me a high density floppy and I'll copy it for you! Paul. Paul Marshall TES Carnegie Hall Leeds Metropolitan University Beckett Park Leeds LS6 3QS Tel: +44 (0)113 2832600 ext 3794 Fax: +44 (0)113 2837410 Email: Work p.marshall@lmu.ac.uk Home prmlmu@aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Sun Oct 17 15:43:07 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: reminder Message-ID: A reminder to list members that replies to WebMath posts go to the whole list (about 260 people at last count), not to the individual that posted the original message. If your intent is to reply to an individual, please change the "to" line in your mail header. >From your WebMath host, June Lester ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Wed Oct 20 12:19:58 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: Math Image Library at Math Goodies Message-ID: <380DEBA9.18167C69@mathgoodies.com> Math Goodies has added 2 new pages of images to our Math Image Library. These images may be downloaded freely at: http://www.mathgoodies.com/math_image_library/ Gisele Glosser -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % % Your Destination For Math Education! % % % % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From susanto at langara.bc.ca Mon Nov 8 18:37:59 1999 From: susanto at langara.bc.ca (Robin Susanto) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: A question - and request for recommendation. References: <37E9DDC0.22F090FC@uni-greifswald.de> Message-ID: <38275ED7.5AE690D0@langara.bc.ca> First the question: When I author a MATHML document using a particular software, does my 'reader' need the same software in order to read it, or can he use any software that supports Mathml? Or, can he use an ordinary browser, such as NetScape of Internet Explorer? And secondly, I wonder if anybody can recommend a Mathml authoring/editing software for me. I am planning to construct fairly simple mathematical expressions (mostly formulas for first and second year Statistics). And at this point in time I am not thinking of any bells and whistles. I have checked several vendor sites, and I have looked at their impressive samples. But I wonder if anybody could tell me: "I have used this and I like it." Thanks . . . ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Robby at orst.edu Mon Nov 8 19:31:16 1999 From: Robby at orst.edu (Robby@orst.edu) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: A question - and request for recommendation. Message-ID: <33FEA12D4ABFD1119D9000A0C9699E0002DE3385@hercules.nws.orst.edu> The following software can be easily used to author MathML: * MathType 4.0 (PC. Check for the Mac) * Mathematica 4.0 * TechExplorer (PC, Mac not out) The way it works with MathType is that you construct an equation, turn on one of several MathML translators customized for various software that displays MathML, copy the equation, and paste it into an ASCII (or UNICODE) document, e.g an HTML file or a notepad document. Mathematica 4.0 has a SAVE AS HTML/MATHML option. This produces an HTML file which contains the MathML for the notebook. TechExplorer (Professional version only) has a very nice LaTeX to MathML translator in the documentation pages! It runs a Java applet that only will run under Netscape. As for your second question . . . A client can display MathML in a browser using a plug-in like WebEQ or TechExplorer. Native support for MathML (presentation tags only) is contained in binaries of Mozilla, the open source project for the Netscape code. I have not tried these and have had two conflicting reports as to whether the support is now being included in the daily builds or whether it is necessary to manually compile the source code. Clearly, this is not yet ready for prime time. IE5, on the other hand, does contain the needed XML support but is not yet able to display MathML without a plug-in. However, this is different than using a plug-in like TechExplorer to display the entire page. The MathML is being parsed and the plug-in is being used just to render it as an embedded part of the page. Math displayed in this fashion will, for example, re-size and change position when the fonts are changed or the browser window re-sized. There is reasonable hope that Microsoft will include native support in the near future. There are other browsers that do have native support, but you would not expect your students to install them on their machines so can be ruled out as irrelevant for practical pedagogic purposes. The best recommendations I can give for software that renders mathematics simply are the ones above (MathType and TechExplorer if you know LaTeX) plus MathView which has now changed its name to livemath (www.livemath.com). Livemath is still a little buggy but I know some people that are really impressed with it for simple stuff, and it will display correctly in a student's browser if they download a free plug-in. My own recommendation for the next short period of time is to use MathType to create gifs (which can be sort of mass-produced using the wildcard naming feature) and go to the extra trouble of creating an ASCII file with the corresponding MathML code for future updating. I would be VERY interested to hear what others had to say, however, since there are certainly products with which I have only minimal familiarity and which might be very good. For more advanced stuff, I would just write it in LaTeX and go from there. -----Original Message----- From: Robin Susanto [mailto:susanto@langara.bc.ca] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 3:38 PM To: webmath@camel.math.ca Subject: WebMath: A question - and request for recommendation. First the question: When I author a MATHML document using a particular software, does my 'reader' need the same software in order to read it, or can he use any software that supports Mathml? Or, can he use an ordinary browser, such as NetScape of Internet Explorer? And secondly, I wonder if anybody can recommend a Mathml authoring/editing software for me. I am planning to construct fairly simple mathematical expressions (mostly formulas for first and second year Statistics). And at this point in time I am not thinking of any bells and whistles. I have checked several vendor sites, and I have looked at their impressive samples. But I wonder if anybody could tell me: "I have used this and I like it." Thanks . . . ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dvaughan at wlu.ca Mon Nov 8 20:05:06 1999 From: dvaughan at wlu.ca (David Vaughan) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: A question - and request for recommendation. In-Reply-To: <38275ED7.5AE690D0@langara.bc.ca> Message-ID: Have you considered formulating your pages in latex, converting the dvi file to pdf format, then mounting that on the web? I find it very convenient, and there is a program that converts the dvi file to pdf quite readily. It may not have the interactivity you want, but at least gives you a wide range of mathematical structures. David Vaughan On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Robin Susanto wrote: > First the question: > > When I author a MATHML document using a particular software, does my 'reader' > need the same software in order to read it, or can he use any software that > supports Mathml? Or, can he use an ordinary browser, such as NetScape of > Internet Explorer? > > And secondly, I wonder if anybody can recommend a Mathml authoring/editing > software for me. I am planning to construct fairly simple mathematical > expressions (mostly formulas for first and second year Statistics). And at this > point in time I am not thinking of any bells and whistles. I have checked > several vendor sites, and I have looked at their impressive samples. But I > wonder if anybody could tell me: "I have used this and I like it." > > Thanks . . . > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From bishopp at for.mat.bham.ac.uk Tue Nov 9 05:10:50 1999 From: bishopp at for.mat.bham.ac.uk (Pam Bishop) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: A question - and request for recommendation. In-Reply-To: <33FEA12D4ABFD1119D9000A0C9699E0002DE3385@hercules.nws.orst.edu> Message-ID: <199911091010.KAA27519@for.mat.bham.ac.uk> Robby@orst.edu writes: > IE5, on the other hand, does contain the needed XML support but is not yet > able to display MathML without a plug-in. This sounds really useful. Can you tell us how to obtain the plug-in? To Robin Susanto: I would recommend the use of PDF files until there is native support for MathML in Netscape and Internet Explorer. PDF files can be created using Adobe Acrobat from Latex files, or from wordprocessed or DTP files containing MathType graphic files for the equations. I publish a newsletter in printed and electronic form using the latter method, and there is an example at http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/reviews/aug98/mathcad.pdf Pam Bishop =============================================================== CTI Mathematics ctimath@bham.ac.uk School of Mathematics and Statistics The University of Birmingham tel 0121-414 7095 Birmingham B15 2TT fax 0121-414 3389 One of 24 CTI subject centres working to encourage the use of computers for teaching and learning in Higher Education. Our Web pages can be found at http://www.bham.ac.uk/ctimath/ =============================================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From wcubed at louisville.edu Tue Nov 9 11:33:10 1999 From: wcubed at louisville.edu (Wiley Williams) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: LP Message-ID: I am looking for a web-based application (is that the right word?) which would let a student input the initial simplex matrix for an LP problem and would return the final simplex matrix. Any suggestions for obtaining this? Wiley Williams ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Wed Nov 10 02:59:37 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: LiveMath Message-ID: Folks - the public beta of v.3 of the LiveMath software/webware (formerly known as Theorist, MathView, and MathPlus) is finally out, and can be downloaded from the LiveMath website . For those of you who have never seen it, this is a mathematics graphing/algebra/etc. package specifically oriented for teaching. Best of all, the files can be saved in a format publishable within web pages, and read by a free plugin. For examples of interactive materials produced with the plugin, see the Visual Calculus website , which has just won an award at the NAWeb 99 conference. ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jajhall at ed.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 06:22:25 1999 From: jajhall at ed.ac.uk (Julian Hall) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: LP References: Message-ID: <38295570.A0C4606F@ed.ac.uk> Wiley > I am looking for a web-based application (is that the right word?) > which would let a student input the initial simplex matrix for an LP > problem and would return the final simplex matrix. Any suggestions > for obtaining this? Have a look at http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/LP-Explorer/ It doesn't allow a student to do quite what you want---unless the student leans to use a little HTML---but if a resource which just performs the simplex iterations were too easily available, some students would never do it for themselves and so fail to master the method. Julian -- Dr. J. A. Julian Hall, Lecturer, Department of Maths and Stats, University of Edinburgh, JCMB, King's Buildings, EDINBURGH, EH9 3JZ, UK. Room: 6221 Phone: [+44](131) 650 5075 Email: jajhall@ed.ac.uk Fax: [+44](131) 650 6553 Web: http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/hall ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From husch at math.utk.edu Wed Nov 10 08:58:18 1999 From: husch at math.utk.edu (husch@math.utk.edu) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: LiveMath In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199911101449.GAA153975@co.camel.math.ca> Hi- I just downloaded and installed the LiveMath plug-in on my WIndows NT 4.0 system in my office. I use three different browsers to check out how my materials appear in all three. The plug-in installation program found the plug-ins directory for each of the browsers but it deleted the old mathview plug-in. First, the Internet Explorer 5.0 browser could not find the plug-in. The plug-in is in the plug-ins directory for the browser. Can someone tell me how you can find out what plug-ins are installed in the Internet Explorer browser just as you can with Netscape by clicking on the 'About Plug-ins' item on the Help menu? I suspect that IE is looking in a different location than the plug-ins directory. Second, you will not be able to view any of the MathView notebooks which I have on my site as June listed below; at least I couldn't. I had used the default html tag given by the MathView program which uses the pluginspage option; for some reason, this tag switches you from the page containing the MathView notebook to the LiveMath site. If I delete that tag or change the reference on the pluginspage to www.livemath.com then you can see my page. I am going to have to change this for all my MathView notebooks. Thirdly, the size of the notebooks has been changed; fortunately, with the new plug-in the size is smaller. Best, Larry > Folks - the public beta of v.3 of the LiveMath software/webware (formerly > known as Theorist, MathView, and MathPlus) is finally out, and can be > downloaded from the LiveMath website . For those > of you who have never seen it, this is a mathematics graphing/algebra/etc. > package specifically oriented for teaching. Best of all, the files can be > saved in a format publishable within web pages, and read by a free plugin. > For examples of interactive materials produced with the plugin, see the > Visual Calculus website , > which has just won an award at the NAWeb 99 conference. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: > http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a > to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of > message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ Larry Husch phone:423-974-4162 fax:423-974-6576 Dept.Mathematics http://www.math.utk.edu/~husch Univ. Tennessee Co-Director, Mathematics Archives Knoxville, TN 37996 http://archives.math.utk.edu/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From JackD at mathtype.com Wed Nov 10 12:44:11 1999 From: JackD at mathtype.com (Jack Dignan) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: LiveMath Message-ID: >First, the Internet Explorer 5.0 browser could not find the plug-in. >The plug-in is in the plug-ins directory for the browser. Can >someone tell me how you can find out what plug-ins are installed in >the Internet Explorer browser just as you can with Netscape by >clicking on the 'About Plug-ins' item on the Help menu? I suspect >that IE is looking in a different location than the plug-ins directory. Larry, You can use either IE5 or Windows Explorer to browse the contents of the 'Downloaded Program Files' folder in your Windows directory. IE4.5 on the Mac does have a 'Support...' button on its 'About Internet Explorer' dialog that shows what plugins are installed. Jack Dignan Development jackd@mathtype.com ================================================================== Design Science, Inc. Sales: sales@mathtype.com 4028 Broadway Support: support@mathtype.com Long Beach, CA 90803 USA World Wide Web: voice: 562-433-0685 http://www.mathtype.com fax: 562-433-6969 ================================================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dzill at popmail.lmu.edu Thu Nov 11 08:27:06 1999 From: dzill at popmail.lmu.edu (Dennis G. Zill) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: Fwd: Re: WebMath: LiveMath (Message received by mistake) Message-ID: >From: husch@math.utk.edu >To: webmath@camel.math.ca, WPT@archives.math.utk.edu >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:58:18 -0500 >Subject: Re: WebMath: LiveMath >CC: info@livemath.com, robert@calculus.net >Priority: normal >Sender: owner-wpt@archives.math.utk.edu >Reply-To: husch@math.utk.edu > >Hi- > >I just downloaded and installed the LiveMath plug-in on my >WIndows NT 4.0 system in my office. I use three different >browsers to check out how my materials appear in all three. The >plug-in installation program found the plug-ins directory for each of >the browsers but it deleted the old mathview plug-in. > >First, the Internet Explorer 5.0 browser could not find the plug-in. >The plug-in is in the plug-ins directory for the browser. Can >someone tell me how you can find out what plug-ins are installed in >the Internet Explorer browser just as you can with Netscape by >clicking on the 'About Plug-ins' item on the Help menu? I suspect >that IE is looking in a different location than the plug-ins directory. > >Second, you will not be able to view any of the MathView >notebooks which I have on my site as June listed below; at least I >couldn't. I had used the default html tag given by the MathView >program which uses the pluginspage option; for some reason, this >tag switches you from the page containing the MathView notebook >to the LiveMath site. If I delete that tag or change the reference on >the pluginspage to www.livemath.com then you can see my page. >I am going to have to change this for all my MathView notebooks. > >Thirdly, the size of the notebooks has been changed; fortunately, >with the new plug-in the size is smaller. > >Best, >Larry > > > Folks - the public beta of v.3 of the LiveMath software/webware (formerly > > known as Theorist, MathView, and MathPlus) is finally out, and can be > > downloaded from the LiveMath website . For those > > of you who have never seen it, this is a mathematics graphing/algebra/etc. > > package specifically oriented for teaching. Best of all, the files can be > > saved in a format publishable within web pages, and read by a free plugin. > > For examples of interactive materials produced with the plugin, see the > > Visual Calculus website , > > which has just won an award at the NAWeb 99 conference. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: > > http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a > > to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of > > message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Larry Husch phone:423-974-4162 fax:423-974-6576 >Dept.Mathematics http://www.math.utk.edu/~husch >Univ. Tennessee Co-Director, Mathematics Archives >Knoxville, TN 37996 http://archives.math.utk.edu/ ********Dennis G. Zill************** * * Mathematics Department * * Loyola Marymount University * * 7900 Loyola Blvd. * * Los Angeles, CA 90045 * * dzill@lmumail.lmu.edu * * Phone: (310) 338-5110 * * FAX: (310)338-2782 * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dzill at popmail.lmu.edu Thu Nov 11 08:43:49 1999 From: dzill at popmail.lmu.edu (Dennis G. Zill) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: >From: husch@math.utk.edu >To: webmath@camel.math.ca, WPT@archives.math.utk.edu >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:58:18 -0500 >Subject: Re: WebMath: LiveMath >CC: info@livemath.com, robert@calculus.net >Priority: normal >Sender: owner-wpt@archives.math.utk.edu >Reply-To: husch@math.utk.edu > >Hi- > >I just downloaded and installed the LiveMath plug-in on my >WIndows NT 4.0 system in my office. I use three different >browsers to check out how my materials appear in all three. The >plug-in installation program found the plug-ins directory for each of >the browsers but it deleted the old mathview plug-in. > >First, the Internet Explorer 5.0 browser could not find the plug-in. >The plug-in is in the plug-ins directory for the browser. Can >someone tell me how you can find out what plug-ins are installed in >the Internet Explorer browser just as you can with Netscape by >clicking on the 'About Plug-ins' item on the Help menu? I suspect >that IE is looking in a different location than the plug-ins directory. > >Second, you will not be able to view any of the MathView >notebooks which I have on my site as June listed below; at least I >couldn't. I had used the default html tag given by the MathView >program which uses the pluginspage option; for some reason, this >tag switches you from the page containing the MathView notebook >to the LiveMath site. If I delete that tag or change the reference on >the pluginspage to www.livemath.com then you can see my page. >I am going to have to change this for all my MathView notebooks. > >Thirdly, the size of the notebooks has been changed; fortunately, >with the new plug-in the size is smaller. > >Best, >Larry > > > Folks - the public beta of v.3 of the LiveMath software/webware (formerly > > known as Theorist, MathView, and MathPlus) is finally out, and can be > > downloaded from the LiveMath website . For those > > of you who have never seen it, this is a mathematics graphing/algebra/etc. > > package specifically oriented for teaching. Best of all, the files can be > > saved in a format publishable within web pages, and read by a free plugin. > > For examples of interactive materials produced with the plugin, see the > > Visual Calculus website , > > which has just won an award at the NAWeb 99 conference. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: > > http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a > > to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of > > message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Larry Husch phone:423-974-4162 fax:423-974-6576 >Dept.Mathematics http://www.math.utk.edu/~husch >Univ. Tennessee Co-Director, Mathematics Archives >Knoxville, TN 37996 http://archives.math.utk.edu/ ********Dennis G. Zill************** * * Mathematics Department * * Loyola Marymount University * * 7900 Loyola Blvd. * * Los Angeles, CA 90045 * * dzill@lmumail.lmu.edu * * Phone: (310) 338-5110 * * FAX: (310)338-2782 * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Tue Nov 16 19:06:04 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:21 2005 Subject: WebMath: Math Goodies named semifinalist in GII Awards Message-ID: <3831F164.DC40392@mathgoodies.com> I am very excited and must share this! Math Goodies was named as a semi-finalist in the Education category of the Fourth Annual GII Awards. Al Gore and Colin Powell endorse these prestigious awards. For more information, read our press release at: http://www.mathgoodies.com/awards/gii_press.shtm Gisele Glosser -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % % Your Destination For Math Education! % % % % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From giroux at dms.umontreal.ca Thu Nov 25 11:53:40 1999 From: giroux at dms.umontreal.ca (Andre Giroux) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: evaluation of math on the web Message-ID: <006f01bf3765$a040f760$ab35cc84@pcmat2..DMS.UMontreal.CA> Hi all. Is there available somewhere yet some evaluation of the efficiency of teaching math through the web ? Andre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.cms.math.ca/pipermail/webmath/attachments/19991125/b8ab7744/attachment.htm From sroth at value.net Thu Nov 25 14:32:29 1999 From: sroth at value.net (Steve Roth) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: evaluation of math on the web Message-ID: <001d01bf377b$db95dcc0$4387b6d1@default> This may be of help... "World Lecture Hall" at http://www.utexas.edu/world/lecture/ -----Original Message----- From: Andre Giroux To: webmath@camel.math.ca Date: Thursday, November 25, 1999 9:09 AM Subject: WebMath: evaluation of math on the web Hi all. Is there available somewhere yet some evaluation of the efficiency of teaching math through the web ? Andre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.cms.math.ca/pipermail/webmath/attachments/19991125/7c587d98/attachment.htm From giroux at dms.umontreal.ca Fri Nov 26 07:08:11 1999 From: giroux at dms.umontreal.ca (Andre Giroux) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: evaluation of math on the web Message-ID: <002101bf3806$eaf2c080$5a6ffdcf@vltyobyp> Hello. Possible mesurable indicators could be drop-out rates or results at a subsequent math, physics or actuarial science exam (comparison between regular and web-educated students, that is). Any such data available anywhere ? Andr? Giroux http://euler.dms.umontreal.ca/~giroux/ -----Message d'origine----- De : Andre Giroux ? : webmath@camel.math.ca Date : 25 novembre, 1999 11:55 Objet : WebMath: evaluation of math on the web Hi all. Is there available somewhere yet some evaluation of the efficiency of teaching math through the web ? Andre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.cms.math.ca/pipermail/webmath/attachments/19991126/251c79d1/attachment.htm From ron at camel.math.ca Fri Nov 26 07:49:14 1999 From: ron at camel.math.ca (Ron Fitzgerald) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: evaluation of math on the web Message-ID: <199911261248.EAA56856@co.camel.math.ca> Andre, The two sites listed are from the Software and Information Industry Association. The first is a list of schools utilizing technology in varying degrees within their school, district or state. The second is a list of publications, this one in particular address some of your requirements. 1999 Research Report on the Effectiveness of Technology in Schools. There is an executive summary at the site and non-members can purchase the material. There are several publications available which also discuss your topic. In particular e-school news, teacher magazine, curriculum administrator and T.H.E. Journal. Each of these has a web site with some access to back issues. You can also contact the technology editors for articles in your area of interest. I hope this is helpful. Ron http://www.siia.net/program/education/techworks.htm http://www.siia.net/program/education/pubs.htm ---------- From: Andre Giroux To: webmath@camel.math.ca Subject: Re: WebMath: evaluation of math on the web Date: November 26, 1999 8:08 AM Hello. Possible mesurable indicators could be drop-out rates or results at a subsequent math, physics or actuarial science exam (comparison between regular and web-educated students, that is). Any such data available anywhere ? Andr? Giroux http://euler.dms.umontreal.ca/~giroux/ -----Message d'origine----- De : Andre Giroux ? : webmath@camel.math.ca Date : 25 novembre, 1999 11:55 Objet : WebMath: evaluation of math on the web Hi all. Is there available somewhere yet some evaluation of the efficiency of teaching math through the web ? Andre ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Wed Dec 8 17:32:04 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: FYI: MathML 2.0 spec Message-ID: A first working draft of the MathML 2.0 specification is available at: http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/ "It is expected that there will be at least two more Working Drafts, appearing at roughly one month intervals, before finalization of the Working Group's proposed specification MathML 2.0." ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jalester at cecm.sfu.ca Wed Dec 8 18:03:42 1999 From: jalester at cecm.sfu.ca (June Lester) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: Future of Mathematical Communication Conference Message-ID: I'm just back from the Future of Mathematical Communication Conference at MSRI, and thought I'd pass along some info on the conference, since it was very much relevant to the focus of this list. The abstracts and the talks themselves (most 30 - 40 min., in streaming video) may be viewed from the conference homepage http://www.msri.org/activities/events/9900/fmc99/index.html . I've also included below a list of speakers and titles. June Speakers and Titles. David Hoffmann: Setting Up and Maintaining Streaming Video Patrick Ion: Lessons from the past of Mathematical Communication June Lester: Communicating with Interactivity Rob Corless: Software Tools for Mathematical Communication Howard Ratner: Reference Linking Using DOI Robby Robson: Metadata for Mathematical Resources: Show and Tell Eberhard Hilf: Professional Home Pages of Institutions and Scientists - New Add-on Services for Learned Societies Alexei Zhizhchenko: Integrated System of Information Resources of RAS Zsuzsa Koltay: Project Euclid Martin Groetschel: MathNet: A Model for the Future Role of the Mathematical Community in Information and Communication? Loki Jorgenson: Prospects for Open Source Scholarly Publishing Jim Crowley: SIAM projects Bernd Wegner: Projects in Electronic Information and Electronic Publication supervised by EMS John Ewing: Predicting (and Protecting) the Future Robert Miner: The Surprising Success of MathML Ursula Martin: The role of computational logic in mathematical communication Konrad Polthier: Online Experiments and Visualization with JavaView Ulli Kortenkamp: Communicating Interactive Geometry Paul Wang: Internet Accessible Mathematical Computation: A Progress Report Jeremy Gunawardena: WebSeminars Mark Steinberger: Journal Quality Andre Kuzniarek: Mathematical communications initiatives from Wolfram Research Mike Doob: The Mathematician-Publisher interface: the recent past, the near future, and the potholes in the road. Olga Caprotti: OpenMath: Accessing and Using Mathematical Information Electronically James Davenport: Electronic Publishing and OpenMath, and what to do about LaTex Nathalie Sinclair: Survival of the Fit: Communicating with our future mathematicians Thorsten Bahne, Gunter Torner: Changing the Representation medium - Changing the Standards? Dave Morrison: Future uses of the mathematics arXiv Rob Kirby: Competing with the commercial journals Ulf Rehmann: DOCUMENTA MATHEMATICA: Efficient Production of Mathematical Literature Bill Casselman: A survey of mathematical exposition in Java Carol Hutchins: GNU Librarians and Messyware Andrew Odlyzko: The rapid evolution of scholarly communication Phil Agre: Rethinking the Institutions of Research ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From suejw at dmu.ac.uk Thu Dec 9 06:59:54 1999 From: suejw at dmu.ac.uk (Sue Johnston-Wilder) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: Future of Mathematical Communication Conference Message-ID: <017b01bf423c$e86a1300$58b6e392@bep138-016.dmu.ac.uk> Having looked at a couple of these I feel disappointed on the level of use of technology. Video is a precious resource, and it seems to me it should be used judiciously. Having spent the time waiting for the video to upload, the ones I looked at would have been better as audio files with a still picture. Better still, something more worthwhile to look at. I appreciate we are in early stages but there is a danger of being wasteful! Sue Johnston-Wilder Editor, Micromath UK -----Original Message----- From: June Lester To: webmath@camel.math.ca Date: 08 December 1999 23:24 Subject: WebMath: Future of Mathematical Communication Conference >I'm just back from the Future of Mathematical Communication Conference at >MSRI, and thought I'd pass along some info on the conference, since it was >very much relevant to the focus of this list. The abstracts and the talks >themselves (most 30 - 40 min., in streaming video) may be viewed from the >conference homepage > >http://www.msri.org/activities/events/9900/fmc99/index.html . > >I've also included below a list of speakers and titles. > >June > > >Speakers and Titles. > >David Hoffmann: Setting Up and Maintaining Streaming Video >Patrick Ion: Lessons from the past of Mathematical Communication >June Lester: Communicating with Interactivity >Rob Corless: Software Tools for Mathematical Communication >Howard Ratner: Reference Linking Using DOI >Robby Robson: Metadata for Mathematical Resources: Show and Tell >Eberhard Hilf: Professional Home Pages of Institutions and Scientists - New >Add-on > Services for Learned Societies >Alexei Zhizhchenko: Integrated System of Information Resources of RAS >Zsuzsa Koltay: Project Euclid >Martin Groetschel: MathNet: A Model for the Future Role of the Mathematical >Community > in Information and Communication? >Loki Jorgenson: Prospects for Open Source Scholarly Publishing >Jim Crowley: SIAM projects >Bernd Wegner: Projects in Electronic Information and Electronic Publication >supervised > by EMS >John Ewing: Predicting (and Protecting) the Future >Robert Miner: The Surprising Success of MathML >Ursula Martin: The role of computational logic in mathematical communication >Konrad Polthier: Online Experiments and Visualization with JavaView >Ulli Kortenkamp: Communicating Interactive Geometry >Paul Wang: Internet Accessible Mathematical Computation: A Progress Report >Jeremy Gunawardena: WebSeminars >Mark Steinberger: Journal Quality >Andre Kuzniarek: Mathematical communications initiatives from Wolfram Research >Mike Doob: The Mathematician-Publisher interface: the recent past, the near >future, > and the potholes in the road. >Olga Caprotti: OpenMath: Accessing and Using Mathematical Information >Electronically >James Davenport: Electronic Publishing and OpenMath, and what to do about >LaTex >Nathalie Sinclair: Survival of the Fit: Communicating with our future >mathematicians >Thorsten Bahne, Gunter Torner: Changing the Representation medium - >Changing the > Standards? >Dave Morrison: Future uses of the mathematics arXiv >Rob Kirby: Competing with the commercial journals >Ulf Rehmann: DOCUMENTA MATHEMATICA: Efficient Production of Mathematical >Literature >Bill Casselman: A survey of mathematical exposition in Java >Carol Hutchins: GNU Librarians and Messyware >Andrew Odlyzko: The rapid evolution of scholarly communication >Phil Agre: Rethinking the Institutions of Research >----------------------------------------------------------------- >WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List >To unsubscribe: >via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl >via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with >"unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message >List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ >----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dlomas at oise.utoronto.ca Thu Dec 9 11:19:09 1999 From: dlomas at oise.utoronto.ca (Dennis Lomas) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: references In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm looking for books/papers in the last couple of years on proofs with diagrams, proofs using ideas from physics, and on Lakatos. Any assistence would be much appreciated. (I have the book of James Robert Brown and books of Jon Barwise/John Etchemendy.) thanks dennis lomas Philosophy Program, Theory and Policy Studies Ontario Institute for Studies in Education of the University of Toronto 252 Bloor Street West, 6th floor Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S 1V6 ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From giroux at dms.umontreal.ca Thu Dec 9 12:19:49 1999 From: giroux at dms.umontreal.ca (Andre Giroux) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: references Message-ID: <004901bf4269$992373e0$ab35cc84@pcmat2..DMS.UMontreal.CA> You might enjoy reading parts of Calculus Gems by G.F. Simmons published by Mc-Graw -Hill. -----Message d'origine----- De : Dennis Lomas ? : webmath@camel.math.ca Date : 9 d?cembre, 1999 11:20 Objet : WebMath: references > >I'm looking for books/papers in the last couple of years on proofs with >diagrams, proofs using ideas from physics, and on Lakatos. >Any assistence would be much appreciated. (I have the book of James >Robert Brown and books of Jon Barwise/John Etchemendy.) > >thanks >dennis lomas > >Philosophy Program, Theory and Policy Studies >Ontario Institute for Studies in Education > of the University of Toronto >252 Bloor Street West, 6th floor >Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S 1V6 > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List >To unsubscribe: >via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl >via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with >"unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message >List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ >----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From erp at maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk Thu Dec 9 14:00:39 1999 From: erp at maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk (erp@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: Future of Mathematical Communication Conference Message-ID: <009E2600.257A72E2.286@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk> What time to upload? On my system they were instantaneous. They were as good as our ISDN2 direct video links. I thought they were great, but where does one find the time to watch so many 45 min lectures? Roy Pike, Stilo Technology, Cardiff, UK ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From ron at camel.math.ca Thu Dec 9 14:59:37 1999 From: ron at camel.math.ca (Ron Fitzgerald) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: Future of Mathematical Communication Conference Message-ID: <199912091959.LAA104997@co.camel.math.ca> The upload time utilizing ADSL was very quick. The picture was fuzzy from time to time but the sound was excellent. I wouldn't try this with a dial up system however. Ron Fitzgerald MathResources Inc. ---------- > From: erp@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk > To: webmath@camel.math.ca > Cc: erp@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk > Subject: Re: WebMath: Future of Mathematical Communication Conference > Date: December 9, 1999 3:00 PM > > What time to upload? On my system they were instantaneous. They were as > good as our ISDN2 direct video links. I thought they were great, but where > does one find the time to watch so many 45 min lectures? Roy Pike, Stilo > Technology, Cardiff, UK > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From info at mathgoodies.com Tue Dec 14 22:26:51 1999 From: info at mathgoodies.com (Gisele Glosser) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events Message-ID: <38570A7B.19008E79@mathgoodies.com> Dear Colleagues, I am looking for news or events in in math education to include in my next newsletter (January, 2000). Any ideas would be appreciated. TIA, Gisele Glosser -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % % Your Destination For Math Education! % % % % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From m.coward at react.org.uk Wed Dec 15 04:46:18 1999 From: m.coward at react.org.uk (Monty Coward) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events Message-ID: <028EB9D59B60D311BAF000902771A14D013DCF@COMMS_SERVER> Greetings ... The University of Sheffield (UK) has written a very good 'booklet' on techniques to apply when studying mathematics. It is geared towards undergraduates. Very well written ... pity it is not on the net ! Regards, Rev M Coward > -----Original Message----- > From: Gisele Glosser [SMTP:info@mathgoodies.com] > Sent: 15 December 1999 03:27 > To: webmath@mail.math.ca > Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events > > Dear Colleagues, > > I am looking for news or events in in math education to include > in my next newsletter (January, 2000). Any ideas would be > appreciated. > > TIA, > Gisele Glosser > -- > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % > % Your Destination For Math Education! % > % % > % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From msharma at idea.cambridge.edu Wed Dec 15 08:41:34 1999 From: msharma at idea.cambridge.edu (Mahesh Sharma) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events References: <028EB9D59B60D311BAF000902771A14D013DCF@COMMS_SERVER> Message-ID: <38579A8D.8A0258D7@idea.cambridge.edu> How does get access to this newsletter? Mahesh Sharma Monty Coward wrote: > > Greetings ... > > The University of Sheffield (UK) has written a very good 'booklet' on > techniques to apply when studying mathematics. It is geared towards > undergraduates. Very well written ... pity it is not on the net ! > > Regards, > > Rev M Coward > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gisele Glosser [SMTP:info@mathgoodies.com] > > Sent: 15 December 1999 03:27 > > To: webmath@mail.math.ca > > Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > I am looking for news or events in in math education to include > > in my next newsletter (January, 2000). Any ideas would be > > appreciated. > > > > TIA, > > Gisele Glosser > > -- > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % > > % Your Destination For Math Education! % > > % % > > % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > > To unsubscribe: > > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From m.coward at react.org.uk Wed Dec 15 08:55:43 1999 From: m.coward at react.org.uk (Monty Coward) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:22 2005 Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events Message-ID: <028EB9D59B60D311BAF000902771A14D013DD3@COMMS_SERVER> If you can remind me tomorrow ... I'll bring it in .. and mail you the details Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: Mahesh Sharma [SMTP:msharma@idea.cambridge.edu] > Sent: 15 December 1999 13:42 > To: webmath@camel.math.ca > Subject: Re: WebMath: Looking for math news or events > > How does get access to this newsletter? > Mahesh Sharma > > Monty Coward wrote: > > > > Greetings ... > > > > The University of Sheffield (UK) has written a very good 'booklet' > on > > techniques to apply when studying mathematics. It is geared towards > > undergraduates. Very well written ... pity it is not on the net ! > > > > Regards, > > > > Rev M Coward > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Gisele Glosser [SMTP:info@mathgoodies.com] > > > Sent: 15 December 1999 03:27 > > > To: webmath@mail.math.ca > > > Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > I am looking for news or events in in math education to include > > > in my next newsletter (January, 2000). Any ideas would be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > TIA, > > > Gisele Glosser > > > -- > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % > > > % Your Destination For Math Education! % > > > % % > > > % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > > > To unsubscribe: > > > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > > > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > > > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > > > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > > To unsubscribe: > > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From m.coward at react.org.uk Thu Dec 16 03:37:02 1999 From: m.coward at react.org.uk (Monty Coward) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:23 2005 Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events Message-ID: <028EB9D59B60D311BAF000902771A14D013DD8@COMMS_SERVER> Study Skills for Mathematics (20 Aug 99) A Student Guide, edited by Pam Bishop and Laurence Nicholas, is a 48 page A5 handbook designed to provide initial support and guidance for undergraduate mathematics students. It is a new updated edition of a highly successful booklet that was developed from the reports of working groups of experienced mathematics lecturers attending the Undergraduate Mathematics Teaching Conference. The publication is priced at ?2 for single copies and ?1 each for orders of 50 copies or more (including p&p), and is available as ISBN 0 86339 8111 from Sheffield Hallam University Press , Adsetts Centre, City Campus, Sheffield, S1 1WB, tel 0114 225 4702, fax 0114 225 4478 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mahesh Sharma [SMTP:msharma@idea.cambridge.edu] > Sent: 15 December 1999 13:42 > To: webmath@camel.math.ca > Subject: Re: WebMath: Looking for math news or events > > How does get access to this newsletter? > Mahesh Sharma > > Monty Coward wrote: > > > > Greetings ... > > > > The University of Sheffield (UK) has written a very good 'booklet' > on > > techniques to apply when studying mathematics. It is geared towards > > undergraduates. Very well written ... pity it is not on the net ! > > > > Regards, > > > > Rev M Coward > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Gisele Glosser [SMTP:info@mathgoodies.com] > > > Sent: 15 December 1999 03:27 > > > To: webmath@mail.math.ca > > > Subject: WebMath: Looking for math news or events > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > I am looking for news or events in in math education to include > > > in my next newsletter (January, 2000). Any ideas would be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > TIA, > > > Gisele Glosser > > > -- > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > % Mrs. Glosser's Math Goodies % > > > % Your Destination For Math Education! % > > > % % > > > % http://www.mathgoodies.com/ info@mathgoodies.com % > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > > > To unsubscribe: > > > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > > > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > > > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > > > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > > To unsubscribe: > > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List > To unsubscribe: > via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl > via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with > "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message > List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From rminer at geomtech.com Sat Dec 18 23:08:48 1999 From: rminer at geomtech.com (Robert Miner) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:11:23 2005 Subject: WebMath: WebEQ Preview Message-ID: <199912190408.WAA29770@wisdom.geomtech.com> Hi all. I know there has been a lot of interest on this list about the prospects for getting MathML rendering in Netscape and IE5. For those who are interested, you can see the beta preview of our latest efforts to customize the WebEQ Math Viewer to take advantage of the new features of IE5. Its online at: http://www.webeq.com/preview I put up a demo showing a page of mathematics that is HTML and MathML, rendered using DHTML behaviors and the Math Viewer. I also have a demo of our new popup math editor that gives a way to get math input back from readers. It works best if you have fast connection, or install the digitally-signed class files in your browser. It's about a 400K download. Feedback is welcome. --Robert ---------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Miner http://www.webeq.com Geometry Technologies, Inc. email: rminer@geomtech.com phone: 651-223-2884 ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- WebMath@mail.math.ca - WebMath Mailing List To unsubscribe: via Web: http://camel.math.ca/cgi-bin/wcms/webmath.pl via e-mail: send message a to majordomo@mail.math.ca with "unsubscribe webmath" in the BODY of message List Archives: http://camel.math.ca/mail/webmath/ -----------------------------------------------------------------